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Edward Rochester Esq.
2019-07-10 11:59:02 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned

Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.

"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Conley Brothers
2019-07-10 17:15:14 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Doc is not musically skilled. Typically, eyes start rolling whenever he tries to talk music. Then we laugh.
Michael Pendragon
2019-07-10 18:21:36 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Doc is not musically skilled. Typically, eyes start rolling whenever he tries to talk music. Then we laugh.
Credit where due; this is in all likelihood the closest thing to a critique Turd's ever written. Matthew must not be making his slurpage quota, as the review is clearly on the damn-him-with-faint-praise level. Apparently Matt borrowed from the Stones and Zep ("been there, heard that, second-hander") and recorded it with a mobile gizmo as the sound is muddy and the vocal can't be heard over the guitar.

HINT TO MATTHEW: Leave glowing comments on ten of Turd's videos ("Out-damn-standing!" or "One of your all-time best!" will suffice) and Turd will revise his opinion next time around.
Will Dockery
2019-07-10 18:31:42 UTC
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Credit where due; this is in all likelihood
I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song.

Since you probably haven't even listened to the song in question, a discussion on if you agree or not will have to wait until you actually hear the song.

:)
Rex Hester Jr.
2019-07-11 23:36:06 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Credit where due; this is in all likelihood
I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song.
Since you probably haven't even listened to the song in question, a discussion on if you agree or not will have to wait until you actually hear the song.
:)
Exactly.........
ME
2019-07-12 00:10:37 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
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Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Credit where due; this is in all likelihood
I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song.
Since you probably haven't even listened to the song in question, a discussion on if you agree or not will have to wait until you actually hear the song.
:)
So you’ve spoken with Matt recently (within the last 24 hours).
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 17:04:02 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Credit where due; this is in all likelihood
I just had a listen
"just" as in "simply had a listen".
Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
and told Matt what I think of the song.
"told" as in "Posted in response" to Matt's post of the lyrics and song:

https://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/JcUpAZVh/stoned-words-music-me

Which did get at least two responses from Matt, in the thread:

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matthewerwwin 3 years ago wrote:
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thanks

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And

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matthewerwwin 3 years ago wrote:
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ok, thanks for the heads up.

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Rex Hester Jr.
2019-07-12 21:26:22 UTC
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Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Credit where due; this is in all likelihood
I just had a listen
"just" as in "simply had a listen".
Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
and told Matt what I think of the song.
https://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/JcUpAZVh/stoned-words-music-me
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thanks
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And
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ok, thanks for the heads up.
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Seems so simple even the ignorant trolls should understand.....
NancyGene
2019-07-10 18:38:23 UTC
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Is "the crunge" a reference to Led Zeppelin or a combination of cringe and grunge? In keeping with Will's precise use of words, what is "effect you were moving for?"
Will Dockery
2019-07-10 18:41:43 UTC
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Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Words, music, production, mixing, matthew ewervvin
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-ervvin/stoned
Post by NancyGene
Post by Edward Rochester Esq.
Dockery: "Good ring of guitar... a little Stones and a whole lot of the crunge.
"On a more constructive critical note, I'd like to hear the vocals a bit better, defined, I think may be the word... they are down in the mix too far for my taste, but I know that may have been what effect you were moving for."
Is "the crunge" a reference to Led Zeppelin
Yes, it was... the song has some of the effects of that style.
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 00:17:51 UTC
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No, but Matt is a Facebook friend, so I can message him.

:)
ME
2019-07-12 00:51:17 UTC
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No, but Matt is a Facebook friend, so I can message him.
:)
Well then pissbum. You do that. And I’ll check to see if Matt answers you.
Ok?
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 01:04:27 UTC
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Why would I need to write Matt?
ME
2019-07-12 02:46:43 UTC
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Why would I need to write Matt?
Duuuhhhh?
You just posted that you told Matt your thoughts on the song and that you were in contact with him on FB.
Damn, talk about little to no attention span.
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 02:51:04 UTC
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No, you seem a bit confused again, "Me".

Try re-reading what I wrote.

😉
Michael Pendragon
2019-07-12 02:58:48 UTC
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No, you seem a bit confused again, "Me".
Try re-reading what I wrote.
You wrote:

"I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song."

Why do you lie so much, Turd?
Rex Hester Jr.
2019-07-12 03:20:47 UTC
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No, you seem a bit confused again, "Me".
Try re-reading what I wrote.
"I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song."
Which he did.....

That is what this thread is about which is Doc's review of the song....
ME
2019-07-12 03:23:20 UTC
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No, you seem a bit confused again, "Me".
Try re-reading what I wrote.
"I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song."
Which he did.....
That is what this thread is about which is Doc's review of the song....
Sure pissbum. Whatever floats your imaginary boat.
Rex Hester Jr.
2019-07-12 03:25:07 UTC
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imaginary boat
Don't let it sink in the imaginary river you ignorant troll...

Ha ha ha....
ME
2019-07-12 02:59:35 UTC
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No, you seem a bit confused again, "Me".
Try re-reading what I wrote.
😉
You lied. Big, mother fucking deal.
That’s all you do. 24/7. You lie. That’s your life. One lie after another.
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 03:05:01 UTC
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As I wrote earlier, you seem confused tonight, again, "Me".

:)
ME
2019-07-12 03:06:32 UTC
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As I wrote earlier, you seem confused tonight, again, "Me".
:)
Bwahahahaha.
You wish pissbum.
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 03:09:51 UTC
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That referred to the original thread, where I listened and commented on the song.
Michael Pendragon
2019-07-12 04:10:45 UTC
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That referred to the original thread, where I listened and commented on the song.
It doesn't matter what it referred to, you *said* that you "told Matt" what you think.

When you *tell* someone something, it implies that you actually spoke (or wrote) to them.

If you haven't spoken to Matt, then you haven't actually *told* him anything.
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 05:14:16 UTC
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That referred to the original thread, where I listened and commented on the song.
aka Told Matt what I think.
Post by Michael Pendragon
It doesn't matter what it referred to, you *said* that you "told Matt" what you think.
When you *tell* someone something, it implies that you actually spoke (or wrote) to them.
If you haven't spoken to Matt, then you haven't actually *told* him anything.
Pendragon, you use "said" for "wrote" here as much as anyone else here.

You know damn well what I meant, and I did write/tell Matt about the song, right here on Usenet.

:)
Michael Pendragon
2019-07-12 12:23:19 UTC
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That referred to the original thread, where I listened and commented on the song.
aka Told Matt what I think.
Post by Michael Pendragon
It doesn't matter what it referred to, you *said* that you "told Matt" what you think.
When you *tell* someone something, it implies that you actually spoke (or wrote) to them.
If you haven't spoken to Matt, then you haven't actually *told* him anything.
Pendragon, you use "said" for "wrote" here as much as anyone else here.
You know damn well what I meant, and I did write/tell Matt about the song, right here on Usenet.
Using "said" for "wrote" is commonly accepted in reference to written communication.

"Told," however, specifically means that your message *reached* its recipient.

You can't have told Matt anything if he never received or read the message.

So, until such time as Matt acknowledges having read your remarks, you have not "told" him a thing.

In short, your use of "told" was just plain wrong.


Michael Pendragon
“It was done before me and after me, I'm simply adding my version.”
-- Wee Whiny Willie Dockery, quintessential dumb fuck, pissbum
NancyGene
2019-07-12 12:32:08 UTC
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That referred to the original thread, where I listened and commented on the song.
aka Told Matt what I think.
Post by Michael Pendragon
It doesn't matter what it referred to, you *said* that you "told Matt" what you think.
When you *tell* someone something, it implies that you actually spoke (or wrote) to them.
If you haven't spoken to Matt, then you haven't actually *told* him anything.
Pendragon, you use "said" for "wrote" here as much as anyone else here.
You know damn well what I meant, and I did write/tell Matt about the song, right here on Usenet.
Using "said" for "wrote" is commonly accepted in reference to written communication.
"Told," however, specifically means that your message *reached* its recipient.
You can't have told Matt anything if he never received or read the message.
So, until such time as Matt acknowledges having read your remarks, you have not "told" him a thing.
In short, your use of "told" was just plain wrong.
Michael Pendragon
“It was done before me and after me, I'm simply adding my version.”
-- Wee Whiny Willie Dockery, quintessential dumb fuck, pissbum
Also, Will said, "I just had a listen and told Matt what I think of the song." To anyone who can read, that means that he listened seconds or minutes before right now. Instead, his comments on that website were from three years ago. Will's facility with words again bites him on the ass.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-07-12 12:54:40 UTC
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I think you mean his infelicity with words rather than his facility, don't you?
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-07-12 14:48:17 UTC
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I think you mean his infelicity with words rather than his facility, don't you?
Will has a huge ass
NancyGene
2019-07-12 15:07:40 UTC
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I think you mean his infelicity with words rather than his facility, don't you?
No, we mean facility, and we rate his facility with words at a 1 on a scale of 100 being the best. As to infelicity, it is true that words are not happy when mangled and strangled by Will.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-07-12 15:22:51 UTC
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Oh, okay. My bad. I'm just trying to understand you clearly.
I wouldn't want to misinterpret your meaning. So you were
trying to be ironical when you said 'his facility with words'
when what you actually meant was his lack of facility with
words, is that correct?
George Sulzbach
2019-07-12 15:38:04 UTC
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Oh, okay. My bad. I'm just trying to understand you clearly.
I wouldn't want to misinterpret your meaning. So you were
trying to be ironical when you said 'his facility with words'
when what you actually meant was his lack of facility with
words, is that correct?
Pastor Corey do you like waffles? I do.
NancyGene
2019-07-12 15:40:33 UTC
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Oh, okay. My bad. I'm just trying to understand you clearly.
I wouldn't want to misinterpret your meaning. So you were
trying to be ironical when you said 'his facility with words'
when what you actually meant was his lack of facility with
words, is that correct?
Pray on it and get back to us in the morning.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-07-12 16:02:21 UTC
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So, is it your facility, or your infelicity with words
that is biting you on the ass at the moment?
NancyGene
2019-07-12 16:21:43 UTC
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So, is it your facility, or your infelicity with words
that is biting you on the ass at the moment?
You are being intentionally and self-promotingly purblind. You should go back to hawking drugs, covering your ass, and playing both sides against the middle.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-07-12 16:36:09 UTC
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I'm just being myself here. I still don't know who you're trying to be.
If I'm purblind to you, I'm purblind. Stupid is as stupid does, and
we haven't made a lot of progress communicating with each other.
Rex Hester Jr.
2019-07-13 09:29:05 UTC
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I'm just being myself here. I still don't know who you're trying to be.
If I'm purblind to you, I'm purblind. Stupid is as stupid does, and
we haven't made a lot of progress communicating with each other.
Be yourself....

Always the best policy....
Michael Pendragon
2019-07-12 16:23:41 UTC
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So, is it your facility, or your infelicity with words
that is biting you on the ass at the moment?
I believe you've just been bitten with your own petard, Hieronymous.
Will Dockery
2019-07-12 04:15:03 UTC
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Pendragon, you use "said" for wrote here as much as anyone else here.

You know damn well what I meant.

:)
Rex Hester Jr.
2019-07-14 02:31:22 UTC
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Glad we settled that nonsense

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