My Grandfather -- Zod

[Zod]

My Grandfather

I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.

Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.

In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.

My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.

How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.

Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.

Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.

Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.

The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.

I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.

--General Zod

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.

How were the eighties for you?

Antti

[Zod]

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My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

I thank you, Antti...

Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

[Conley Brothers]

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Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

[Rocky]

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Lying and forging does seem to be your only talents, fucken fake Conley...

Ha ha ha...

[Zod]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great ma, indeed... war hero, also...

[Usenet Editor]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great ma, indeed.

We don't need to know your grandfather's kinky trans proclivities.

[Will Dockery]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

We don't need to know your grandfather's

Then why bother to even read the poem?

;)

[Rocky]

Post by Will Dockery

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

We don't need to know your grandfather's

Then why bother to even read the poem?
;)

Indeed...

[Zod]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

We don't need to know your grandfather's

Then why bother to even read the poem?

Becuase he is obsessed .....

[k***@gmail.com]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

[Rocky]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

Sounds like the start of as poem right there, Ktell….

[Zod]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

A poem...........?

[Heathcliff]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

As I wrote earlier, your memories would make a good poem, Methinks....

[Zod]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My poem, if any have an interest, please post...

[General Zod]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

Hello Ktell...

[ME]

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My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

Hello Ktell...

Sorry will, but I think zod burned that bridge today...

[Zod]

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My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

Hello Ktell...

Sorry will, but I think zod burned that bridge today...

Who is this, Nancy G....?

Ha ha ha....

[Zod]

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My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

My mother's father had a button that read "Kiss the cook; he is German. He put a 1/4 pound of butter in his veal stew, "Don't tell your Mother." I was very fond of him.

Hello Ktell...

I think zod burned that bridge today xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

While thinking is not known to be your strong suit....

[Zod]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

Typo corrected...!

[Zod]

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Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

Back to your question, the 1980s were very good for me, I had youth and my dreams on my side....

[Michael Pendragon]

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My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...
Back to your question, the 1980s were very good for me, I had youth and my dreams on my side....

And now you're old, prematurely aged, and live under a piece of discarded tarp with no dreams of improving your life situation.

[Zod]

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My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...
Back to your question, the 1980s were very good for me, I had youth and my dreams on my side....

And now you're old xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxx

We all get old, even you, foolish Voodoo Boy....

Ha ha ha.....

[Antti]

Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?

Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.

But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.

They think other people are just like them.

I would have been dead in US.

People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.

Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.

Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?

Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.

Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.

You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.

Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.

Antti

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The point is that he's not fighting them, Antti.

He's proclaimed himself a "Dharma Bum," posts pictures of himself proudly displaying his tarp, and boasts about how he's living high on the hog from the food stamps he gets from the Government.

Post by Antti
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.

The state does help him. And his brother in Florida has offered to take him in. But neither the state nor his brother can force him to accept their help.

Post by Antti
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.

If you've read his posts, you'll see that there are literally hundreds of them telling us how he's enjoying his "well-earned retirement" by sitting in his tent, enjoying his view of the river, cooking some steak on his "campfire," and swilling his bottle of wine.

He finishes off each of these posts with a proclamation that "Life is good."

Post by Antti
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.

I also served in the Navy. Jim fought in Vietnam. Neither of us are ridiculing him for his years of service.

And you're mistaken about Stink. People like him readily take the benefits that enable them to sustain their chosen lifestyle (food stamps, free coffee and showers from the Safe House, etc.) while they turn down offers from family to take them in/help them combat their addictions.

Post by Antti
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.

If he wishes to be treated with respect, he needs to respect the wishes of others.

When Stink first began posting here, he was met with kindness and civility from all. Jim even sent him money (but let's not reopen that can of worms). He made himself unwelcome here by constantly bumping posts -- even numerous, polite requests that he cut down on his number of posts.

Post by Antti
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?

His brother (who, one presumes, is living in a house) has offered to take him in. He claims to hold a bus ticket to his brother's town in Florida, but *chooses* to remain in his tarp.

Post by Antti
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.

Which is an argument against supporting freeloaders.

Post by Antti
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.

This isn't a question of rich vs poor, Antti.

Stink has chosen to live the way he does.

He doesn't have to work. He can sit and watch the sunset on the Chattahoochee every evening and he can party around the "campfire" every night with Dirty Mike and Loretta singing and dancing for his entertainment.

I agree with you that the Government should provide shelter, food, medicine, clothing for those in trouble. I also believe that the Government should actively work to find them suitable jobs so that they can return to their former place in society.

But the Government cannot forcefully take the mentally ill off of the streets, and force them to receive treatment. They should have the authority to do this, but the Liberal faction feels that it is a violation of human rights.

So nut-jobs like Stink are permitted to live under tarps, and to subsist on free coffee and food stamps. And there is nothing we can do to remedy this without surrendering what has been mistakenly perceived to be one of our human rights.

Post by Antti
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.

And so I have. I was most cordial to Stink when he first arrived here. And I treated him politely for well over a year. As previously noted, any animosity toward Stink was brought on by his actions over time -- not due to any prejudices against the homeless or mentally ill.

Post by Antti
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.

I disagree. Stink's life doesn't matter.

Stink has chosen to drop out of society (while continuing to exploit it).

He has chosen not to matter.

Not only has he chosen not to matter, but he's chosen to make a nuisance of himself here.

He'll get no pity from me.

[ME]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The point is that he's not fighting them, Antti.
He's proclaimed himself a "Dharma Bum," posts pictures of himself proudly displaying his tarp, and boasts about how he's living high on the hog from the food stamps he gets from the Government.

Post by Antti
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.

The state does help him. And his brother in Florida has offered to take him in. But neither the state nor his brother can force him to accept their help.

Post by Antti
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.

If you've read his posts, you'll see that there are literally hundreds of them telling us how he's enjoying his "well-earned retirement" by sitting in his tent, enjoying his view of the river, cooking some steak on his "campfire," and swilling his bottle of wine.
He finishes off each of these posts with a proclamation that "Life is good."

Post by Antti
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.

I also served in the Navy. Jim fought in Vietnam. Neither of us are ridiculing him for his years of service.
And you're mistaken about Stink. People like him readily take the benefits that enable them to sustain their chosen lifestyle (food stamps, free coffee and showers from the Safe House, etc.) while they turn down offers from family to take them in/help them combat their addictions.

Post by Antti
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.

If he wishes to be treated with respect, he needs to respect the wishes of others.
When Stink first began posting here, he was met with kindness and civility from all. Jim even sent him money (but let's not reopen that can of worms). He made himself unwelcome here by constantly bumping posts -- even numerous, polite requests that he cut down on his number of posts.

Post by Antti
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?

His brother (who, one presumes, is living in a house) has offered to take him in. He claims to hold a bus ticket to his brother's town in Florida, but *chooses* to remain in his tarp.

Post by Antti
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.

Which is an argument against supporting freeloaders.

Post by Antti
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.

This isn't a question of rich vs poor, Antti.
Stink has chosen to live the way he does.
He doesn't have to work. He can sit and watch the sunset on the Chattahoochee every evening and he can party around the "campfire" every night with Dirty Mike and Loretta singing and dancing for his entertainment.
I agree with you that the Government should provide shelter, food, medicine, clothing for those in trouble. I also believe that the Government should actively work to find them suitable jobs so that they can return to their former place in society.
But the Government cannot forcefully take the mentally ill off of the streets, and force them to receive treatment. They should have the authority to do this, but the Liberal faction feels that it is a violation of human rights.
So nut-jobs like Stink are permitted to live under tarps, and to subsist on free coffee and food stamps. And there is nothing we can do to remedy this without surrendering what has been mistakenly perceived to be one of our human rights.

Post by Antti
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.

And so I have. I was most cordial to Stink when he first arrived here. And I treated him politely for well over a year. As previously noted, any animosity toward Stink was brought on by his actions over time -- not due to any prejudices against the homeless or mentally ill.

Post by Antti
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.

I disagree. Stink's life doesn't matter.
Stink has chosen to drop out of society (while continuing to exploit it).
He has chosen not to matter.
Not only has he chosen not to matter, but he's chosen to make a nuisance of himself here.
He'll get no pity from me.

Well said Michael.

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being.

Wouldn't know it from the smell or the photos.
He looks like he spent four years on a deserted island where the only company he had were rocks.

[Heathcliff]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

Well put, I thank....

[Zod]

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Zod

Post by a***@gmail.com

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

He polished the general's toilet seat for the outhouse.

Post by Zod
Back to your question, the 1980s were very good for me, I had youth and my dreams on my side....

then you were arrested for kidnapping and possession of LSD.

You seriously need some new material, Don Rickles you are not...

Ha ha ha....

[Zod]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The point is that he's not fighting them, Antti.
He's proclaimed himself a "Dharma Bum," posts pictures of himself proudly displaying his tarp, and boasts about how he's living high on the hog from the food stamps he gets from the Government.

Post by Antti
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.

The state does help him. And his brother in Florida has offered to take him in. But neither the state nor his brother can force him to accept their help.

Post by Antti
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.

I also served in the Navy. Jim fought in Vietnam. Neither of us are ridiculing him for his years of service.

Good to see this denial, because it sure looks like you and the others have been doing that...

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.

And so I have xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxx

Stop lying, Pendragon... you will not even make the effort to call me by my chosen name rather than your scummy nick names for me...

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.

I disagree xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, Pendragon proves all by himself what a malicious scumbag he is...!!

[Will Dockery]

Post by Zod
Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

I remember your father telling me how the Nazis awarding him the Kriegsverdienstmedaille while he was the head baker at Aushwitz. His creation, the Bacon Jewfflé was quite the hit with the gestapo.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Zod
Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

I remember

<forgery snipped>

Identity theft and forgery of my name noted.

[Zod]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Zod
Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

I remember

<forgery snipped>
Identity theft and forgery of my name noted.

My guess is Nancy Gene is the impostor troll, or one of the main ones....

[Zod]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

Quite eloquent, my friend... I thank you...

[Zod]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The point is that he's not fighting them, Antti.
He's proclaimed himself a "Dharma Bum," posts pictures of himself proudly displaying his tarp, and boasts about how he's living high on the xxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxThese are lies you have made up about me in your own imagination, Pendragon...

[Zod]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The pointxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Well xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Be quiet my little smarmy one...

Ha ha ha...

[Zod]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....

Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

What truth, Stink?

If you're no longer enjoying the Dharma Bum lifestyle, why don't you use your supposed bus ticket, travel to Florida, and live with your brother?

[ME]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

What truth, Stink?
If you're no longer enjoying the Dharma Bum lifestyle, why don't you use your supposed bus ticket, travel to Florida, and live with your brother?

Michael, you might be zods only real advocate here.
Anti’s appeal for sympathy, will’s use and abuse of him and the fact the he has no life outside this group, only proves that no one cares about him.
At least you have tried to give him so good advice.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by ME

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

What truth, Stink?
If you're no longer enjoying the Dharma Bum lifestyle, why don't you use your supposed bus ticket, travel to Florida, and live with your brother?

Michael, you might be zods only real advocate here.
Anti’s appeal for sympathy, will’s use and abuse of him and the fact the he has no life outside this group, only proves that no one cares about him.
At least you have tried to give him so good advice.

Thank you, ME.

I believe that Antti's intended kindness only reinforces Stink's delusion that he is living the good life under a piece of tarp.

The best thing he can do is to go back to his brother, get himself clean and sober, then find himself a job in the area where his brother can keep tabs on him.

[Peter J Ross]

In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Michael Pendragon
I believe that Antti's intended kindness only reinforces Stink's
delusion that he is living the good life under a piece of tarp.
The best thing he can do is to go back to his brother, get himself
clean and sober, then find himself a job in the area where his
brother can keep tabs on him.

But he's not going to do any of that, is he?

What's the next best thing he can do? Do you agree that it involves a
tall building with easy access to the roof?

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Michael Pendragon
I believe that Antti's intended kindness only reinforces Stink's
delusion that he is living the good life under a piece of tarp.
The best thing he can do is to go back to his brother, get himself
clean and sober, then find himself a job in the area where his
brother can keep tabs on him.

But he's not going to do any of that, is he?
What's the next best thing he can do? Do you agree that it involves a
tall building with easy access to the roof?

Tall buildings have security guards at the entrance. They'd never let a stinkbum like him in.

Jumping in the Chattahoochee River is my recommendation.

[Peter J Ross]

In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:56:13 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:26:40 -0700

Post by Michael Pendragon
I believe that Antti's intended kindness only reinforces Stink's
delusion that he is living the good life under a piece of tarp.
The best thing he can do is to go back to his brother, get
himself clean and sober, then find himself a job in the area
where his brother can keep tabs on him.

But he's not going to do any of that, is he?
What's the next best thing he can do? Do you agree that it involves
a tall building with easy access to the roof?

Tall buildings have security guards at the entrance. They'd never
let a stinkbum like him in.

Can't we use crowdfunding to bribe the guards?

Post by Michael Pendragon
Jumping in the Chattahoochee River is my recommendation.

Speaking as a Classical scholar, the principal river of Racistville GA
reminds me of the principal river of Rome.

Yes, the Chattahoochee and the Cloaca Maxima are practically
identical!

It might be best to send Plod some old-fashioned razor blades.

[Zod]

Post by Peter J Ross
Speaking as a Classical scholar, the principal river of Racistville GA

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Where?

[ME]

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

WTF are you drinking, snorting or smoking today, zod?
WTF....

[m***@yahoo.com]

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Post by a***@gmail.com

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Sounds like a solid dude.
How were the eighties for you?
Antti

Yes, my grandfather was a great man, indeed... war hero, also...

He polished the general's toilet seat for the outhouse.

Post by Zod
Back to your question, the 1980s were very good for me, I had youth and my dreams on my side....

then you were arrested for kidnapping and possession of LSD.

[Zod]

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

What truth, Sxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for proving Antti's point for us, Voodoo Boy...

And from now on, please call me General Zod, you sleazy little Trump slurper...

Ha ha ha....

[Zod]

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I am moving these wse words to a new thread so the cyberbullies ME and Pendragon cannot bury it with their Trump slurping garbage....

The world is laughing at America enough now without these two poetry clowns showing their hatred and ignorance....

[Zod]

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

What xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx

Michael, you might be zods only real advocate xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You must be stoned out of your mind, like Peter J. Ross says you are....

Ha ha ha....

[Zod]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

<snip>

He is living under a tarp. The picture of him next the tarp did not look like he was proudly displaying it. Most of the people in this group where asking why would he even share it. It is his reality.
I think he was communicating with the picture his reality.
He is not high on anything. His life is tough. This groups is probably one of his only outlets. That is why he is clinging to it it more than anyone else.

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.

<snip>

My dad had a brother. Ahti. He was a alcoholic. People did try to help him.
But here is the thing. If you were troubled. Would you move to your brothers
house?
I think he would love to have a place of his own though.
I imagine his family would ride him all day long. Try to moralize him into quitting his bad habits.
Have you been addicted?
I have been forced into taking pills for my epilepsy. I know if I would get the surgery and was healed. One of the hardest things would be for me to have to stop taking those pills.
I heard someone had a cancer and after the surgery that person said that it was harder to stop taking one of the pills that I take than the cancer itself.
My family has alcoholism. My uncle ahti did kill himself. Hung himself on a door knob. The desperation.. I know alcoholics.
The hell it is. It is hard to even admit you have a problem. My dad did quit at age 50. But only after it was beginning to cause all sorts of trouble.
Zod is a bit older. In a little bit tougher place in life. For him to quit there would have to be some light in the end of the tunnel. What is he looking for if he quit.
No doubt the alcoholism has damaged him.
I imagine on some level he is resigned to the fact that the alcoholism might kill him. Because the thought how hard to kick it.. Well.
Even at some fancy Betty Ford clinic, it would be hard as hell. As proven by the countless stars who go there and under the VERY BEST treatment. Still relapse. So who are we to morally tell him to "just quit". That is exactly what I meant when I said that in US there is this dogshit notion of "just overcoming your problems". It is not that easy.
You have to put yourself to the shoes of the person.

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.

If you've read his posts, you'll see that there are literally hundreds of them telling us how he's enjoying his "well-earned retirement" by sitting in his tent, enjoying his view of the river, cooking some steak on his "campfire," and swilling his bottle of wine.

Because he does not want to open himself up to a bunch of guys and girls who would rip him apart given the chance.
You have to be blind to not see that it is not the way he says it is.
He may have his moments.
But his life is tough.
Trump is doing this all the time. He is saying counter things to piss off his liberal opposition. He is in the "very best, most beautiful, huugely great health" while barely able to lift up a glass.
Ask him why he is doing it.
He is doing the same thing, because deep down. He just hates left. I guess Zod on some level hates you guys for not being able to understand that of course he is suffering. Go live under a tarp for a week in July under hot sun of GA and tell me how it was.
Do you even have to be told that it would suck balls.
One of the things Americans are criticized for is that you do not speak plain.
There are all these mental games going on which muddle the reality.
The last part I will write to this in bold tells you the reason for the muddles communication from Zod.

Post by Michael Pendragon
He finishes off each of these posts with a proclamation that "Life is good."

Post by Antti
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.

<Pendragon's bullshit snipped>

Aah? There was a lot of comments about his "substance problem" which led to him quitting. . 4 years? Does that not count? I was in army here for 8 months and I can not imagine doing 4 years.

Post by Michael Pendragon
And you're mistaken about Stink. People like him readily take the benefits that enable them to sustain their chosen lifestyle (food stamps, free coffee and showers from the Safe House, etc.) while they turn down offers from family to take them in/help them combat their addictions.

My uncle worked to the end. His hands shook. He and my dad for some reason were not in the best of relations. Me and him got along great though.
Then one day he hung himself.
I imagine Zod is in a place that if he worked. He could not handle it.
My uncle tried to work to the end. I imagine he killed himself because he
did not understand he should not have worked anymore. Not being able to sleep
etc. He tried to work. Not a good combination.
Alcoholism does that to people, as probably does living under a tarp.
It is called total burn out. When you no longer can deal with stress.
I have it. . After 9 years of living with deadly disease that can kill me
at any time. I understand it. I can not handle any stress. I am cutting
myself off the society. I can not even handle people anymore.
I imagine Zod has the same disease. If people piss him off, critisize him. He probably walks off to his camp. He is probably rather in his camp than at a place where people who think they are morally superior to him bug him to quit alcohol without giving him any real other support.
He says it is great at the camp. Because yes, it probably is great compared to being in a place where people judge him and think they are superior to him all day long.
That is why the people who are down stick together. Because they are the only ones who can understand the position they are in. Meanwhile better off people drive by and show their middle finger. Whose children do things like kill homeless hobos in Florida. Why? Because the attitude their parents have is not lost. It is passed on to the next generation.
A little bit of socialism would be the answer. That you let the state pay a little bit more to support people like Zod. People who for some reason drifted to the camp. From where it clearly is nigh impossible to return to a apartment of your own.

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.

If he wishes to be treated with respect, he needs to respect the wishes of others.

If you respect him. No doubt he will respect you back. But the reason why he is hogging this group is because he loves to be here. He feels he is among his spiritual kin. He clearly knows more about poetry than I do.
Poetry matters to him. He belongs in this group more than me.
If he had not taken to a substance abuse. If he had had parents who would have put him to college. I know in US military is often a way to get the hell out of humble beginnings. A lot of kids who end up in military would rather go to college but can not afford it. Zod might have been a person you all would like to hang with. But genes, shit life, opportunity have made him a pariah.

Post by Michael Pendragon
When Stink first began posting here, he was met with kindness and civility from all. Jim even sent him money (but let's not reopen that can of worms). He made himself unwelcome here by constantly bumping posts -- even numerous, polite requests that he cut down on his number of posts.

Is it so hard. To skip his posts? How much do you suffer for doing that? Is it worth wanting him to die? Why? Why this hatred?

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?

His brother (who, one presumes, is living in a house) has offered to take him in. He claims to hold a bus ticket to his brother's town in Florida, but *chooses* to remain in his tarp.

Because he probably does not get along with his brother. How hard it is to get that.

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.

Which is an argument against supporting freeloaders.

Post by Antti
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.

This isn't a question of rich vs poor, Antti.
Stink has chosen to live the way he does.

Lets say you had walked one day in New York. Your mind on some other things and had taken a step on to walk away. Only to notice that a car was speeding your way and you struck your head on the windshield of the car.
Lets say you woke up in a hospital. The year was a long long time ago and you were mentally and physically disabled.
Now. Lets say you were in a shit housing with rats and some guy who would like your benefits would double dog dare you to try some smack.
Lets say it was the suckiest day ever. Your mentally retarded girlfriend decided to ditch on you. Your mother or father died. Along with your dog. And you felt hell. And did it once.
Now lets say that you liked the poison. And then you began struggling with it.
Maybe quitting it. Maybe getting a little big better off physically. But you would find yourself hobbling in some homeless shelter with a addiction problem.
How would you like to be treated then? Sounds impossible? Did you know Corona can damage your brain. What if you were mentally impaired due to having had corona and began making choices that were not "smart".
Lets say you were hallucinating. I have heard corona can do that to you. Do you know how that feels? I do. I sometimes hear voices before seizure. See pictures suddenly appear out of nowhere as I am half a asleep.
Would you still be a human being. Would you still have worth?
I would say yes.
Would you?
Or would the quick judgment in your head be that he should shoot himself in that situation.
I know a lot of people in US do that. I probably would have done that if I had a gun.
Should all people who are down and out do that?

Post by Michael Pendragon
He doesn't have to work. He can sit and watch the sunset on the Chattahoochee every evening and he can party around the "campfire" every night with Dirty Mike and Loretta singing and dancing for his entertainment.
I agree with you that the Government should provide shelter, food, medicine, clothing for those in trouble. I also believe that the Government should actively work to find them suitable jobs so that they can return to their former place in society.

The possible addiction and years of living on the camp have probably made him be a person who would not mix up too well with people who judge him.
That is the main problem. Oh and the burn out.
Some people have trouble working. For mental health reasons. I am one of them.
As I said, I would be dead in America.
I would be bankrupt in America. My last 11 day video eeg cost me 580 bucks here. It would have been around 3300 dollars a day in US. IE. I would have never had that. I would have not known that the weird feelings I get are infact seizures and not something else.
In America people like me do kill themselves because they do not feel that people want them to live.
They are ridiculed, not believed and people tell to just get to work. As if it fixed everything. You know in Nazi Germany they did have the "Arbeit Macht Frei" on the front of concentration camps. It is in fact that exact same attitude just taken a little bit further.
I do believe that it is sad that Fascism was not cracked down on in US after world war 2 as hard as it was cracked down on in Europe. Here we understand where it leads. In US. Not so much.
You have too much pride in your own infallibility and superiority. American exceptionalism you call it.
When often it is due to the very best of foreign labor brought there with the lure of lower taxes. At the same time you hate foreigners. It makes my head spin.
Elon Musk comes to mind. :D

Post by Michael Pendragon
But the Government cannot forcefully take the mentally ill off of the streets, and force them to receive treatment. They should have the authority to do this, but the Liberal faction feels that it is a violation of human rights.

That was due to Reagan. Who threw mentally ill people out of mental hospitals.
Last I checked Reagan was a republican.
The liberals are a God send. I hope they take over US government. So you people will finally understand that Scandinavian style government is people for the people.
You do not have to lick the asses of rich people by giving them endless tax cuts to have a good society. You, as no other person in this group no doubt will ever be a millionaire. Meanwhile, here in the socialist Scandinavia, I once briefly was. Age 16. Because my dad worked his ass off.
Sure he went banktrupt. But you can become rich here too.
We are not communist. We just figured out something. We want the government to treat the weak, the way we would like the government to treat us if we were them.
Being sick. I am thankful to God I live here.

Post by Michael Pendragon
So nut-jobs like Stink are permitted to live under tarps, and to subsist on free coffee and food stamps. And there is nothing we can do to remedy this without surrendering what has been mistakenly perceived to be one of our human rights.

https://wolfstreet.com/2020/06/12/wow-thats-fast-debt-out-the-wazoo/
Build a few less fighter planes. Maybe a couple less nukes. You can do it.

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.

And so I have. I was most cordial to Stink when he first arrived here. And I treated him politely for well over a year. As previously noted, any animosity toward Stink was brought on by his actions over time -- not due to any prejudices against the homeless or mentally ill.

Because he posts a lot on a usenet group. Come on.

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.

I disagree. Stink's life doesn't matter.

DING DING DING. WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!
God. Where do I begin. With the kids who went killing homeless people in Florida. With the people burning crosses. This is the cause folks.
America has a flaw in its foundation and it is this thing. It can easily be fixed. The fix would cease the riots, it would make America a better place.
Help the poor. Be a Christian society as you claim to be. Treat people better.
Then you no longer have to have a second thought about the poor. Because every one helps the poor in form of taxes. Instead of giving themselves the bullshit loop hole where you graciously give them five dollars at the crossroads where they are BEGGING for money.
Because it makes you feel good you gave 5 dollars as they squirm on the front of you and you can feel MORALLY SUPERIOR. Hashing out judgment like "they deserve to be begging money - they should be thankful for the 5 dollars I gave them from my OWN HARD EARNED MONEY".
The latter keeps the ones who work, callous.. You can send all the homeless people packing to homes. Built with money that comes from taxes. Their addictions treated with money that comes from taxes. Their children already having a step up.
You can give their children education without forcing them to military. For free. It is done here. You can do it too.
You can fix the flaw in your foundation. The answer does not have to be that Zod dies, or the black man dies in the hands of the police, who are patrolling the neighborhood like SS.
You can make the society A LITTLE BIT SOFTER. A LITTLE BIT KINDER. And you do not have to WISH DEATH for people who live around you. Like rats.
You do not have to build walls between the rich and the poor. You can make society such that they do not have to be separated by massive amount of police.
I am going to write this last bit in bold.
ZOD IS SAYING THINGS LIKE HE IS FINE BECAUSE THE SOCIETY HAS TAUGHT HIM HE CAN NOT COMPLAIN. IF HE DOES NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO HIM.
HE HAS LEARNED IT BY BEGGING ON THE STREET CORNER. TO GET MONEY FOR FOOD.
TO LIVE.

Post by Michael Pendragon
Stink has chosen to drop out of society (while continuing to exploit it).
He has chosen not to matter.
Not only has he chosen not to matter, but he's chosen to make a nuisance of himself here.
He'll get no pity from me.

Of course he does not.
Why do I care about your attitude? Because west was built with US as the corner stone. If you go fascist, we may follow. And if the world gets bi polar with extreme attitudes. Then there will be war. And I would rather not see world war 3.
Softer attitudes might make the future brighter. Harder attitudes. Will make it a living hell.
Antti

Good morning, Antti... and well put, as usual...

[Zod]

Post by Michael Pendragon
Jumping in the Chattahoochee River

I swim there almost every day, as well as fish there...

[Zod]

I thank all for the great comments....

[k***@gmail.com]

Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

[m***@yahoo.com]

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Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

It's not. The "real" Zod is supposed to appear in court this morning for bail.

[k***@gmail.com]

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Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

It's not. The "real" Zod is supposed to appear in court this morning for bail.

You've succeeded in worrying me, if that was your intention. I hope you are lying, Zod is known for excess periods in his ellipses.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by k***@gmail.com

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Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

It's not. The "real" Zod is supposed to appear in court this morning for bail.

You've succeeded in worrying me, if that was your intention. I hope you are lying, Zod is known for excess periods in his ellipses.

[sniffs air] It's him.

[k***@gmail.com]

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Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

It's not. The "real" Zod is supposed to appear in court this morning for bail.

You've succeeded in worrying me, if that was your intention. I hope you are lying, Zod is known for excess periods in his ellipses.

[sniffs air] It's him.

Your nose is better than mine, I hope.

I will say the reduction of Zod postings is sort of nice.

[Michael Pendragon]

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Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

It's not. The "real" Zod is supposed to appear in court this morning for bail.

You've succeeded in worrying me, if that was your intention. I hope you are lying, Zod is known for excess periods in his ellipses.

[sniffs air] It's him.

Your nose is better than mine, I hope.
I will say the reduction of Zod postings is sort of nice.

It's very nice. If he can stick to it, we might have some semblance of peace here.

[ME]

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Post by Zod
I thank all for the great comments....

I'm hoping this is the real Zod and you are well.

It's not. The "real" Zod is supposed to appear in court this morning for bail.

You've succeeded in worrying me, if that was your intention. I hope you are lying, Zod is known for excess periods in his ellipses.

[Zod]

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Michael Pendragon
I believe that Antti's intended kindness only reinforces Stink's
delusion that he is living the good life under a piece of tarp.
The best thing he can do is to go back to his brother, get himself
clean and sober, then find himself a job in the area where his
brother can keep tabs on him.

But he's not going to do any of that, is he?
What's the next best thing he can do? Do you agree that it involves a
tall building with easy access to the roof?
--
PJR :-)
μεγάλη ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ὑπερισχύει.
- Esdras A 4.41

Not likely...

Ha ha ha....

[Zod]

In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:26:40 -0700

I believe that Antti's intended kindness only reinforces xxxxxxxxxx

Oh, shut up, scumbag...

Ha ha ha...

[Zod]

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

There you go, impostor troll...

[Conley Brothers]

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Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half? Are you really that stupid, Sulzbach? Are you going the blame this parade of idiocy on your imposter?

[Zod]

Post by Zod

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Quite close to half, yes indeed....

[Zod]

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Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half?

Close to it.....

[Will Dockery]

Post by Zod

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half?

Close to it.....

4 year out of 10 isn't "most of the decade", Zod. Sober up and grab a calculator.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Zod

Post by Zod

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half?

Close to it.....

4 year out of 10 isn't "most of the decade", Zod. Sober up and

<snip>

More forgery and identity theft.

[Zod]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Zod

Post by Zod

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half?

Close to it.....

4 year out of 10 isn't "most of the decade", Zod. Sober up and

<snip>
More forgery and identity theft.

Obsessed fools....

[Clay Dockery]

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...
There you go, impostor troll...

It's totally a lie. I'm not surprised you would lie about your less than honorable service. I hear you were tossed out due to your substance abuse.

[Zod]

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Four years is close enough to half....

[a***@gmail.com]

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Four years is close enough to half....

I salute you sir!

Antti

[Zod]

Post by a***@gmail.com

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Four years is close enough to half....

I salute you sir!
Antti

I thank you my friend,,,,,,

[Zod]

Post by a***@gmail.com

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Four years is close enough to half....

I salute you sir!
Antti

Hello and my thanks, A.L.

[Conley Brothers]

Post by Zod

Post by Conley Brothers

Post by Zod
Most of the 1980s I spent in the U.S. Navy...

Lie noted

Not really a lie, I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

Half xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Four years is close enough to half....

But you said you were in the Navy for most of the 80s. Half isn't even most. Thanks for proving that working in a mill was beyond your skill set as was swabbing seamen seen from the deck before you were bounced from the Navy.

[Zod]

Post by Zod
I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

It's totally xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Fuck off, lying identity thief....

[BumpMaster 3000]

Post by Zod
I spent four years in the Navy, so I should have wrote that I spent half the 1980s in the U.S. Navy...

It's totally xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zxxxxxxxxx

I became known as the blowjob king in the navy.

Мы знаем

[Will Dockery]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Good one, Zod.

I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to meet your grand parents.

[Peter J Ross]

In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 7 Jun 2020 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Will Dockery
Good one, Zod.
I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to
meet your grand parents.

If you didn't meet them, how did you know one of them well, and how
did you know that both of them were grand?

[i***@gmail.com]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Excellent.

[Terrance (Terrance Stomp)]

Post by i***@gmail.com

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Excellent.

I thank you....

[Zod]

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 7 Jun 2020 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Will Dockery
Good one, Zod.
I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to
meet your grandparents.

If you didn't meet them, how did you know one of them well, and how
did you know that both of them were grand?
--
PJR :-)
μεγάλη ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ὑπερισχύει.
- Esdras A 4.41

Doc was friends with my father, not my grandfather....

[Will Dockery]

Post by Zod

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 7 Jun 2020 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Will Dockery
Good one, Zod.
I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to
meet your grandparents.

If you didn't meet them, how did you know one of them well, and how
did you know that both of them were grand?
--
PJR :-)
μεγάλη ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ὑπερισχύει.
- Esdras A 4.41

Doc was friends with my father, not my grandfather....

Friends with benefits is more like it but yes. I enjoyed his war stories about his time fighting for the Nazis.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Zod

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 7 Jun 2020 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Will Dockery
Good one, Zod.
I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to
meet your grandparents.

If you didn't meet them, how did you know one of them well, and how
did you know that both of them were grand?
--
PJR :-)
μεγάλη ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ὑπερισχύει.
- Esdras A 4.41

Doc was friends with my father, not my grandfather....

Friends with

<troll snip>

Fuck off, impostor.

;)

[Zod]

Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 7 Jun 2020 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT),

Post by Will Dockery
Good one, Zod.
I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to
meet your grandparents.

If you didn't meet them, how did you know one of them well, and how
did you know that both of them were grand?
--
PJR :-)
μεγάλη ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ὑπερισχύει.
- Esdras A 4.41

Be quiet, Peter...

[Will Dockery]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Good one, Zod.

I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to meet your grandparents.

(Error corrected)

[Zod]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Zod
My Grandfather
I carry
my grandfather's name
I am
General Zod III.
Grampa Zod was born
January 05, 1891.
near the Greatest of Lakes
Erie.
In the land
where the Buffalo
used to roam
wild and free.
My Grandmother Ada
always at his side
both handed down
customs of old Germany.
How I love
and remember the aroma
of Grandmother Ada
in her kitchen
where she was so happy.
Cooking thinly sliced
breaded schnitzel
in a fry pan
for me.
Summers at the
huge farmhouse
Canadian geese
on the lake
Grampa Zod and I.
Zod the First
taught me about
trick I use to this
very day
hunting rabbit in the field
fishing in the stream.
The most fun
was camping out
in a frozen lake
in his tent
by the fire bucket
ice fishing with me.
I still remember
our tears
when Grampa Zod passed on
when I was ten
saddest day ever
March 12, 1970.
--General Zod

Good one, Zod.
I knew your father well, but of course wasn't around early enough to meet your grandparents.

I thank you....

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

...should never have impregnated that prostitute.

[Zod]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

....should never have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxx

Shut up, Dink....

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

....should never have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxx
Shut up, Dink....

Truth hurts, huh, Sparky?

[Ryan Hall]

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

...should never have impregnated that prostitute.

Haha. He raw dogged that bitch then married her.

[Zod]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

Haha. He xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Stop trolingg forger (Nancy G?).....

[Zod]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

....should never have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hello Dink, long time no see....

Ha ha ha....

[Zod]

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

....should never have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxx
Shut up, Dink....

Truth xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

No, your lies are snipped....

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Zod

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

....should never have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxx
Shut up, Dink....

Truth xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
No, your lies are snipped....

No wonder you kiss Will's ass so often. You and he have the same take when it comes to ignoring reality.

[Zod]

Post by Zod

Post by Zod
My Grandfather

....should never have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxx
Shut up, Dink....

Truth xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
No, your lies are snipped....

No wonder xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Yes, lies are only to be stamped out, the Zod way.....

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The point is that he's not fighting them, Antti.
He's proclaimed himself a "Dharma Bum," posts pictures of himself proudly displaying his tarp, and boasts about how he's living high on the hog from the food stamps he gets from the Government.

Post by Antti
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.

The state does help him. And his brother in Florida has offered to take him in. But neither the state nor his brother can force him to accept their help.

Post by Antti
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.

If you've read his posts, you'll see that there are literally hundreds of them telling us how he's enjoying his "well-earned retirement" by sitting in his tent, enjoying his view of the river, cooking some steak on his "campfire," and swilling his bottle of wine.
He finishes off each of these posts with a proclamation that "Life is good."

Post by Antti
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.

I also served in the Navy. Jim fought in Vietnam. Neither of us are ridiculing him for his years of service.
And you're mistaken about Stink. People like him readily take the benefits that enable them to sustain their chosen lifestyle (food stamps, free coffee and showers from the Safe House, etc.) while they turn down offers from family to take them in/help them combat their addictions.

Post by Antti
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.

If he wishes to be treated with respect, he needs to respect the wishes of others.
When Stink first began posting here, he was met with kindness and civility from all. Jim even sent him money (but let's not reopen that can of worms). He made himself unwelcome here by constantly bumping posts -- even numerous, polite requests that he cut down on his number of posts.

Post by Antti
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?

His brother (who, one presumes, is living in a house) has offered to take him in. He claims to hold a bus ticket to his brother's town in Florida, but *chooses* to remain in his tarp.

Post by Antti
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.

Which is an argument against supporting freeloaders.

Post by Antti
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.

This isn't a question of rich vs poor, Antti.
Stink has chosen to live the way he does.
He doesn't have to work. He can sit and watch the sunset on the Chattahoochee every evening and he can party around the "campfire" every night with Dirty Mike and Loretta singing and dancing for his entertainment.
I agree with you that the Government should provide shelter, food, medicine, clothing for those in trouble. I also believe that the Government should actively work to find them suitable jobs so that they can return to their former place in society.
But the Government cannot forcefully take the mentally ill off of the streets, and force them to receive treatment. They should have the authority to do this, but the Liberal faction feels that it is a violation of human rights.
So nut-jobs like Stink are permitted to live under tarps, and to subsist on free coffee and food stamps. And there is nothing we can do to remedy this without surrendering what has been mistakenly perceived to be one of our human rights.

Post by Antti
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.

And so I have. I was most cordial to Stink when he first arrived here. And I treated him politely for well over a year. As previously noted, any animosity toward Stink was brought on by his actions over time -- not due to any prejudices against the homeless or mentally ill.

Post by Antti
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.

I disagree. Stink's life doesn't matter.
Stink has chosen to drop out of society (while continuing to exploit it).
He has chosen not to matter.
Not only has he chosen not to matter, but he's chosen to make a nuisance of himself here.
He'll get no pity from me.

Ha ha ha.

[Zod]

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

<snip>

I believe that Antti's intended kindness xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Shut up, you ignorant scum bag....

[Zod]

Post by ME

Post by Zod

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you again, Antti, but you see with the nest of Trump slurpers we have here, Pendragon, "ME", Nancy G. and so on all those cyberbully thugs will do is try to shout you down....
Your words ring of truth which they shall never kill...

WTF are you drinking, snorting or smoking today, zod?
WTF....

How about you, ME, still on the drugs like Peter J. Ross informs us...?

Ha ha ha...

[Zod]

Post by Antti

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.

The point is that he's xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You do not have the right to speak for me, Pendragon.....

Post by Antti
Michael, you just described the insurmountable odds he is fighting.
Can you imagine the mental state a person is in after being homeless for years?
Add possible addiction problems, age and the truth is. The state should help him.
But in US people believe in this dogshit notion of overcoming your problems. Mostly said by people who have overcome some minor problems and then make one massive mistake.
They think other people are just like them.
I would have been dead in US.
People like Zod need benefits. Medical and state sponsored. As you guys ridicule him for serving 4 years in the navy. My question to you is. How many years did you guys serve? How many years did the draft dodging president serve.
Zod is a human being. Not a butt of a joke. He is a human being deserving human treatment. Instead you snicker at him for living under a tarp.
Why is he living under a tarp, instead of in a state sponsored house? Because it would cost you in taxes?
Meanwhile US debt is 26 trillion dollars.
Money is printer brrrrr when the rich need it, when the poor are dying on the street. Fuggetabout it.
You could easily afford a little bit more human treatment for people like Zod. Former vet who may have been discharged early. But hell. The man served 4 years and lives under a damn tarp.
Lack of equality is the reason why people protest in US. Zod is a living proof of that lack. His life matters too.
Antti

I thank you, Antti, and moved to a new thread so they can't bury it as easily...!!

As the trolls do seem intent on doing in their cyberbully shout downs....

[Zod]

But you said you were in the Navy for most of the 80s xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

I corrected that to almost half the 1980s....

Happy now..?