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Calmly We Walk through This April's Day / Delmore Schwartz
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Will Dockery
2015-01-19 11:00:11 UTC
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"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz

Read more of "Calmly We Walk through This April's Day" at:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
m***@yahoo.com
2015-01-20 02:33:14 UTC
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"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
"Will Dockery sucks, h-he just... h-he just sucks. He sucks so hard. Will Dockery uses drugs. The end." - Delmore Schwartz
Will Dockery
2015-01-20 15:55:48 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
"Will Dockery sucks, h-he just... h-he just sucks. He sucks so hard. Will Dockery uses drugs. The end." - Delmore Schwartz
Alas, if Delmore Shwartz were here to say... anything.
Peter J Ross
2015-01-20 21:10:04 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:55:48 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
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Post by Will Dockery
"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
"Will Dockery sucks, h-he just... h-he just sucks. He sucks so hard. Will Dockery uses drugs. The end." - Delmore Schwartz
Alas, if Delmore Shwartz were here to say... anything.
He'd be 102 years old this year. He might be helplessly senile, but
probably not too helplessly senile to say pretty much what Dink said
about talentless, thieving scum like you.


Fans of Delmore Schwartz ought to read Eileen Simpson's /Poets in
their Youth/ (Faber, 1982). ES was John Berryman's first wife, and
amazingly forgiving in her memoirs of how JB treated her. The
Berrymans and the Schwartzes spent a lot of time together.

===[begin_quoted_text]================================================
[Delmore's] life was his subject. He was frankly and unashamedly
autobiographical. Long before the word came into fashion, he was
"confessional". Having worked through and discarded the styles of his
mentors at an early age, after taking from them what he needed, he
developed the flat, conversational voice that recorded so well the
speech of the milieu in which he had grown up, while the other poets
of his generation were using material from their lives, when they used
it at all, in an abstract, symbolic way, expressing it in "cerebral"
language.
===[end_quoted_text]==================================================

(from page 35 of the first British edition, which I haven't just
rushed out and bought, though it was misplaced on my shelves for so
long that I thought I'd lost it.)
--
PJR :-)
... τὸ διδάξασθαι δέ τοι
εἰδότι ῥᾴτερον· ἄγνωμον δὲ τὸ μὴ προμαθεῖν·
κουφότεραι γὰρ ἀπειράτων φρένες. (Pindar)
Will Dockery
2015-01-20 21:21:07 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
Alas, if Delmore Shwartz were here to say... anything.
He'd be 102 years old this year. He might be helplessly senile
That's pretty old, true.
Post by Peter J Ross
Fans of Delmore Schwartz ought to read Eileen Simpson's /Poets in
their Youth/ (Faber, 1982). ES was John Berryman's first wife, and
amazingly forgiving in her memoirs of how JB treated her. The
Berrymans and the Schwartzes spent a lot of time together.
===[begin_quoted_text]================================================
[Delmore's] life was his subject. He was frankly and unashamedly
autobiographical. Long before the word came into fashion, he was
"confessional". Having worked through and discarded the styles of his
mentors at an early age, after taking from them what he needed, he
developed the flat, conversational voice that recorded so well the
speech of the milieu in which he had grown up, while the other poets
of his generation were using material from their lives, when they used
it at all, in an abstract, symbolic way, expressing it in "cerebral"
language.
===[end_quoted_text]==================================================
(from page 35 of the first British edition, which I haven't just
rushed out and bought, though it was misplaced on my shelves for so
long that I thought I'd lost it.)
A nice read, thanks.
Peter J Ross
2015-01-20 23:22:45 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:21:07 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
Alas, if Delmore Shwartz were here to say... anything.
He'd be 102 years old this year. He might be helplessly senile
That's pretty old, true.
Post by Peter J Ross
Fans of Delmore Schwartz ought to read Eileen Simpson's /Poets in
their Youth/ (Faber, 1982). ES was John Berryman's first wife, and
amazingly forgiving in her memoirs of how JB treated her. The
Berrymans and the Schwartzes spent a lot of time together.
===[begin_quoted_text]================================================
[Delmore's] life was his subject. He was frankly and unashamedly
autobiographical. Long before the word came into fashion, he was
"confessional". Having worked through and discarded the styles of his
mentors at an early age, after taking from them what he needed, he
developed the flat, conversational voice that recorded so well the
speech of the milieu in which he had grown up, while the other poets
of his generation were using material from their lives, when they used
it at all, in an abstract, symbolic way, expressing it in "cerebral"
language.
===[end_quoted_text]==================================================
(from page 35 of the first British edition, which I haven't just
rushed out and bought, though it was misplaced on my shelves for so
long that I thought I'd lost it.)
A nice read, thanks.
ES's prose style is as annoying throughout as the specimen I quoted,
but her book is full of fascinating first-hand gossip.

If you ever learn how to read, and earn enough money to afford to buy
books, you should buy /Poets in Their Youth/.
--
PJR :-)
... τὸ διδάξασθαι δέ τοι
εἰδότι ῥᾴτερον· ἄγνωμον δὲ τὸ μὴ προμαθεῖν·
κουφότεραι γὰρ ἀπειράτων φρένες. (Pindar)
Will Dockery
2015-01-20 23:43:51 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
If you ever learn how to read, and earn enough money to afford to buy
books, you should buy /Poets in Their Youth/.
I get most of my books from used bookshops so they're usually less than a buck each.
Peter J Ross
2015-01-20 23:52:11 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:43:51 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Peter J Ross
If you ever learn how to read, and earn enough money to afford to
buy books, you should buy /Poets in Their Youth/.
I get most of my books from used bookshops so they're usually less than a buck each.
Comics aren't books, alcoholic clown.
--
PJR :-)
... τὸ διδάξασθαι δέ τοι
εἰδότι ῥᾴτερον· ἄγνωμον δὲ τὸ μὴ προμαθεῖν·
κουφότεραι γὰρ ἀπειράτων φρένες. (Pindar)
Will Dockery
2015-01-21 00:11:57 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
Comics aren't books
For once we agree, PJR.
--
Check out "Gone Too Far" / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars - http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/song/11596860
Will Dockery
2015-01-23 10:08:56 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
"Will Dockery
Is your biggest obsession for over a decade now?

The only subject you can think or post about?

We know?
--
Check out "Gone Too Far" / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars - http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/song/11596860
Peter J Ross
2015-01-20 20:47:50 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon, 19 Jan 2015 03:00:11 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
What do you like about the poem?

What do you dislike about it, or do you think it's flawless?

Do you have any opinion to offer about it at all, or are you just
spamming, as usual?
--
PJR :-)
... τὸ διδάξασθαι δέ τοι
εἰδότι ῥᾴτερον· ἄγνωμον δὲ τὸ μὴ προμαθεῖν·
κουφότεραι γὰρ ἀπειράτων φρένες. (Pindar)
Will Dockery
2015-01-21 09:28:03 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
What do you like about the poem?
As posted, my favorite part of the poem are the "payoff" lines:

"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz

Read more of "Calmly We Walk through This April's Day" at:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#
Peter J Ross
2015-01-22 14:30:58 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 21 Jan 2015 01:28:03 -0800 (PST),
Post by Peter J Ross
What do you like about the poem?
What, no answer?

<clueless whining snipped>
--
PJR :-)
... τὸ διδάξασθαι δέ τοι
εἰδότι ῥᾴτερον· ἄγνωμον δὲ τὸ μὴ προμαθεῖν·
κουφότεραι γὰρ ἀπειράτων φρένες. (Pindar)
Will Dockery
2015-01-22 16:41:29 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
What do you like about the poem?
What, no answer?>
I did answer, and you snipped it.
Peter J Ross
2015-01-22 17:14:24 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 22 Jan 2015 08:41:29 -0800 (PST),
Post by Peter J Ross
What do you like about the poem?
What, no answer?>
When dishonestly post-editing, try not to leave a trail of evidence,
such as a ">" where no ">" would be likely to appear.
--
PJR :-)
... τὸ διδάξασθαι δέ τοι
εἰδότι ῥᾴτερον· ἄγνωμον δὲ τὸ μὴ προμαθεῖν·
κουφότεραι γὰρ ἀπειράτων φρένες. (Pindar)
Will Dockery
2015-01-22 17:28:19 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
When dishonestly post-editing
<snip>

Something you obviously are an expert at, PJR.
Will Dockery
2015-07-31 19:27:32 UTC
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"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz

Read more of "Calmly We Walk through This April's Day" at:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#

Okay, I was slightly off from my quote, from memory.

Close though.

:D
Will-Dockery
2024-07-17 11:15:19 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 9:33:15 PM UTC-5
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 6:00:11 AM UTC-5, Will Docker
"Time is the school in which we learn
Time is the fire in which we burn.
-Delmore Schwart
Read more of "Calmly We Walk through This April's Day
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Post by Will Dockery
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344
"Will Dockery sucks, h-he just... h-he just sucks. He suck
so hard. Will Dockery uses drugs. The end." - Delmore Schwart
Post by Will Dockery
Alas, if Delmore Shwartz were here to say... anything
And alas, Dink is gone, as well




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