Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Steely Dan is one of the best examples....

Will Dockery

2022-12-03 21:42:50 UTC

Steely Dan is one of the best examples....

Agree and seconded.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 04:25:35 UTC

As Karla Rogers often reminded us:

"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

🙂

General-Zod

2022-12-04 19:57:36 UTC

"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

Ms. Karla was a very smart young lady....

Will Dockery

2023-01-17 20:25:35 UTC

Post by General-Zod

"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

Ms. Karla was a very smart young lady....

Karla Rogers knows her poetry, yes.

🙂

W.Dockery

2023-01-16 10:02:24 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.

Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:

"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

HTH and HAND.

Jordy C

2023-01-16 14:53:53 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

W-Dockery

2023-01-16 18:53:11 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

🙂

Jordy C

2023-01-17 12:40:25 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.
🙂

bonjour, Will

Will Dockery

2023-01-17 17:45:35 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend

🙂

Coco DeSockmonkey

2023-01-17 19:03:21 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

Jordy C

2023-01-18 20:53:08 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend
🙂

Shalom, Will

W-Dockery

2023-01-18 23:02:44 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Hello again my friend

Shalom, Will

Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.

:)

Jordy C

2023-01-20 03:32:36 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Hello again my friend

Shalom, Will

Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
:)

bonjour, Will

W.Dockery

2023-01-20 04:20:57 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Hello again my friend

Shalom, Will

Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend

🙂

Jordy C

2023-01-21 02:19:04 UTC

Again, agreed, Jordy.
"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
HTH and HAND.

thank you, Will

Hello again my friend

Shalom, Will

Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend
🙂

hola Will

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 16:17:08 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

🙂

Spam-I-Am

2022-12-04 17:58:35 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.
🙂

I don’t really care whether or not, or to what extent a story, poem or song is strictly autobiographical.
If I can connect with the story, poem or song, and it resonates on a personal level, then I’m satisfied.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 19:06:32 UTC

Post by Spam-I-Am

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

No argument with that.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-05 03:35:03 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.
🙂

thank you, Will

Will Dockery

2022-12-05 03:36:49 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

thank you, Will

Good evening, my friend, great to see a friendly face here on Usenet.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-05 03:37:36 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

thank you, Will

Good evening, my friend, great to see a friendly face here on Usenet.
🙂

hola Will

Will Dockery

2022-12-05 06:28:25 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

thank you, Will

Good evening, my friend, great to see a friendly face here on Usenet.

hola Will

Hello there, my friend.

🙂

Will Dockery

2022-12-07 06:15:17 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

thank you, Will

Good evening, my friend, great to see a friendly face here on Usenet.

hola Will

Hello there, Jordy.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-07 14:09:18 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

thank you, Will

Good evening, my friend, great to see a friendly face here on Usenet.

hola Will

Hello there, Jordy.
🙂

Shalom Will

W.Dockery

2022-12-07 21:19:20 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

hola Will

Hello there, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-07 21:39:14 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

hola Will

Hello there, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.
🙂

bonjour, Will

W-Dockery

2022-12-07 23:47:33 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello there, Jordy.

:)

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-08 04:40:05 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello there, Jordy.
:)

hola Will

Family Guy

2022-12-08 06:44:36 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello there, Jordy.
:)

hola Will

WILL YOU ASSHOLES SHUT UP

W.Dockery

2022-12-08 13:24:22 UTC

Post by Family Guy

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello there, Jordy.
:)

hola Will

WILL YOU ASSHOLES SHUT UP

You could consider trying that, yourself?

🙂

Family Guy

2022-12-09 19:59:53 UTC

Post by Family Guy

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

bonjour, Will

Hello there, Jordy.
:)

hola Will

WILL YOU ASSHOLES SHUT UP

You could consider trying that, yourself?

Or you could consider stopping pointlessly spamming this thread.

Will Dockery

2022-12-08 22:23:56 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Hello there, Jordy.

hola Will

Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is going great.

:)

Robert Burrows

2022-12-08 22:54:59 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Hello there, Jordy.

hola Will

Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is going great.
:)

Fucking Donkey.

Will Dockery

2022-12-08 23:01:39 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) > in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Back to the topic, well put, Jordy.

Shalom Will

Hello there, Jordy.

hola Will

Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is going great.

Fucking Donkey.

Says the Burro.

:)

Zod

2022-12-05 21:38:50 UTC

Hi J.C.

Well put....!

Will Dockery

2022-12-05 23:21:30 UTC

Hi J.C.
Well put....!

Agreed and seconded.

:)

Will Dockery

2022-12-09 15:11:27 UTC

Steely Dan is one of the best examples....

Great band.

W.Dockery

2022-12-13 06:44:33 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-13 14:53:00 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
🙂

hola Will, thank you

Will Dockery

2022-12-13 21:34:20 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Hello there Jordy, you're welcome.

Hope you're having a great afternoon.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-13 21:47:27 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Hello there Jordy, you're welcome.
Hope you're having a great afternoon.
🙂

thank you, same to you

W.Dockery

2022-12-14 02:52:50 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Hello there Jordy, you're welcome.
Hope you're having a great afternoon.

thank you, same to you

Hello again my friend.

🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-14 14:05:25 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Hello there Jordy, you're welcome.
Hope you're having a great afternoon.

thank you, same to you

Hello again my friend.
🙂

bonjour, Will

Will Dockery

2022-12-14 18:12:28 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

:)

Ash Wurthing

2022-12-14 19:21:54 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

Oh yeah, i almost forgot my edits from a week ago-- oh woe you whippin' proud boys, I'm being neglectful in my so called obsession with you!

You're definitely not a poet or writer and seeing what satisfies you, shows that you're easy to please...
Your title would be catchier as: "Songs*, stories and poems are not necessarily** autobiographical"
also I would:
* make 'Song' plural since the rest of your subject list are plurals
** change 'necessarilly' to 'necessarily'

Now 'song' could be used if change the form of the other subjects to:
"Song, Story and Poetry are not necessarily** autobiographical"
Still I would also:
** change 'necessarilly' to 'necessarily'

"All you zombies hide your faces,
All you people in the street,
All you sittin' in high places,
The rain's gonna fall on you"
-- 'All You Zombies' ~~The Hooters

"We're living, living like we're dead
You're living, living like there's sickness in your head
I'm only guilty of surviving
You're all guilty of playing both sides and
Where there are zombies there are rats
And where I'm from rats get the axe"
-- 'Red Queen' ~~KING 810

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-14 21:10:50 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
:)

bonjour, Will

Robert Burrows

2022-12-14 21:30:52 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
:)

bonjour, Will

You're embarrassing your nephew, Issac.

Ash Wurthing

2022-12-14 22:11:17 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
:)

bonjour, Will

You're embarrassing your nephew, Issac.

Yep. But I believe he's given leeway by his family-- that is if they even know what he's doing. I know I would be pissed if a family member was bringing another member's name in an adverse environment only to be ridiculed...
You see, I have come to the conclusion after watching Mr. Chase's poor juvenile social skills and inability to learn from experience (and why I don't come down on him as harshly), that he perhaps is "special" (as in on the spectrum) and that would explain so much about him and what he does.

W-Dockery

2022-12-14 22:25:57 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.

🙂

Robert Burrows

2022-12-14 22:36:11 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.
🙂

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-14 22:42:18 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.
🙂

Shalom, Will

Robert Burrows

2022-12-14 22:50:57 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.
🙂

Shalom, Will

http://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

Ash Wurthing

2022-12-14 23:45:42 UTC

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.
🙂

Shalom, Will

http://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

How "cute" this greetings loop from the "real poetry" troupe -- but fear not my rebuke for I must puke...
But I must ask, is all these hellos some kinda "real poetry" that us unreal poets are not privy to? And it isn't just we're all mad here, apparently we're all confused too!
"I don't wake at all
I just stare at the ceiling, at the floor
And stare at the wall
Wish this earth would disappear beneath me
Wish I would fall
My body straight to hell, my bones would break
And I would crawl"
-- 'Comin' Back to You' ~~KING 810

W.Dockery

2022-12-15 01:03:22 UTC

Post by Ash Wurthing

Good morning Jordy, again, well put.

hola Will, thank you

Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today..

bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.
🙂

Shalom, Will

http://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

is all these hellos some kinda "real poetry"

No, they're just hellos, feel free to skip and ignore.

🙂

W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com (W-Dockery )

2022-12-16 02:27:33 UTC

Steely Dan is one of the best examples....

Yes, a perfect example.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-03 23:06:34 UTC

Anyone who writes knows that most writing is not autobiographical.

However, when the poet says that his poem was "largely based on personal experience," one can assume that it's mostly autobiographical. Which covers George Dance (who, as you should be aware, is currently debating whether his poem that was "largely based on personal experience" is therefore "largely autobiographical"), and who seems to have been the inspiration for this post.

As a writer, my works are rarely autobiographical, although they do include some autobiographical elements. I have written only two autobiographical short stories ("The Blue Jay" and "My Favorite Song"), and several others that were loosely based on my personal experiences. Only one of my poems, "Love Thy Neighbor," is autobiographical -- and it only depicts an unfulfilled desire:

Fortunately, I moved.

NancyGene

2022-12-03 23:51:42 UTC

We love the poem, Michael! Such a light touch and beautiful images.

Post by Michael Pendragon
Fortunately, I moved.

But the neighbor stayed there...forever?

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 00:16:50 UTC

We love the poem, Michael! Such a light touch and beautiful images.

Post by Michael Pendragon
Fortunately, I moved.

But the neighbor stayed there...forever?

As far as I know, he's still there. I do regret not having disemboweled him... but as his presence no longer impacts my life, the potential risk outweighs the satisfaction.

NancyGene

2022-12-04 00:38:55 UTC

We love the poem, Michael! Such a light touch and beautiful images.

Post by Michael Pendragon
Fortunately, I moved.

But the neighbor stayed there...forever?

As far as I know, he's still there. I do regret not having disemboweled him... but as his presence no longer impacts my life, the potential risk outweighs the satisfaction.

Someone else must have done it--we can look in our files for similar cold cases. - Dr. NancyGene, Chief Medical Examiner

Dennis Rowan

2022-12-04 00:57:55 UTC

We love the poem, Michael! Such a light touch and beautiful images.

Post by Michael Pendragon
Fortunately, I moved.

But the neighbor stayed there...forever?

As far as I know, he's still there. I do regret not having disemboweled him... but as his presence no longer impacts my life, the potential risk outweighs the satisfaction.

Someone else must have done it--we can look in our files for similar cold cases. - Dr. NancyGene, Chief Medical Examiner

As far as I know, he's still there. I do regret not having disemboweled him.

If he was as immense as your images indicate, a nice neighborly flensing would have done him some good, Mike!!
Savagely funny!!

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 06:02:05 UTC

We love the poem, Michael! Such a light touch and beautiful images.

Post by Michael Pendragon
Fortunately, I moved.

But the neighbor stayed there...forever?

As far as I know, he's still there. I do regret not having disemboweled him... but as his presence no longer impacts my life, the potential risk outweighs the satisfaction.

Someone else must have done it--we can look in our files for similar cold cases. - Dr. NancyGene, Chief Medical Examiner

As far as I know, he's still there. I do regret not having disemboweled him.
If he was as immense as your images indicate, a nice neighborly flensing would have done him some good, Mike!!
Savagely funny!!

Thanks, Dennis. He was pretty large: I'd guesstimate about 6'2"... and probably almost as tall.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 05:16:17 UTC

There are elements of autobiography in George Dance's poem, but it isn't exactly based on his life, as we know.

Post by Michael Pendragon
http://youtu.be/YHUNEz7YDJs
Fortunately, I moved.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 06:08:21 UTC

There are elements of autobiography in George Dance's poem, but it isn't exactly based on his life, as we know.

Bullshit, Donkey.

George has said that his father built a house-in-a-box, and he has said that all the boys in his house were subjected to corporal punishment. That's about half of the poem's content right there.

So what part did George make up? Having to take his shoes off before going inside? Not being allowed to play like other kids? Wanting to buy his father's house and burn it down?

It really doesn't matter, because the bare-assed whipping scene is the one we've been discussing, and anyone who's experienced corporal punishment has felt the sting of a belt more than once.

W.Dockery

2022-12-04 06:14:05 UTC

There are elements of autobiography in George Dance's poem, but it isn't exactly based on his life, as we know.

Bullshit

No it isn't, little monkey.

🙂

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 08:01:18 UTC

There are elements of autobiography in George Dance's poem, but it isn't exactly based on his life, as we know.

Bullshit

No it isn't, little monkey.

Mea culpa: Donkey shit.

Ash Wurthing

2022-12-05 21:38:17 UTC

Nice work. Also nice humor...

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 06:18:06 UTC

Wrong, Pendragon, because the poet has the final word as to the meaning and intent of his poetry.

George Dance has stated several times now that your interpretation of his poem is mistaken.

HTH and HAND.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 08:00:57 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Wrong, Pendragon, because the poet has the final word as to the meaning and intent of his poetry.
George Dance has stated several times now that your interpretation of his poem is mistaken.

A poem is open to interpretation, Donkey.

George's statements are not.

George has stated the following:

1) That the poem was "largely based on" his own experiences,
2) That the boys in his house were subject to corporal punishment,
3) That his father built a house-in-the-box.

Since the father in the poem builds a house-in-the-box and subjects his son (the speaker) to corporal punishment, and since the poem is "largely based on" George's personal experience, it is not a matter of question that the boy in the poem who got whipped with his daddy's belt was George.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 08:10:30 UTC

Sure, there are elements from George Dance's childhood in the poem, but not all the details in the poem are autobiographical, as George has repeatedly stated.

HTH and HAND.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 08:18:47 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Sure, there are elements from George Dance's childhood in the poem, but not all the details in the poem are autobiographical, as George has repeatedly stated.

Possibly. But from George's *statements,* he was clearly the bare-assed little boy.

Apparently he's still... wait for it... butt-hurt over the events in the poem, but that's no reason for you to pretend it never happened.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 08:21:22 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Sure, there are elements from George Dance's childhood in the poem, but not all the details in the poem are autobiographical, as George has repeatedly stated.

Possibly. But from George's *statements,* he was clearly the bare-assed little boy.
Apparently he's still... wait for it... butt-hurt over the events in the poem, but that's no reason for you to pretend it never happened.

If I remember correctly, George Dance denied that.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 09:21:48 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Sure, there are elements from George Dance's childhood in the poem, but not all the details in the poem are autobiographical, as George has repeatedly stated.

Possibly. But from George's *statements,* he was clearly the bare-assed little boy.
Apparently he's still... wait for it... butt-hurt over the events in the poem, but that's no reason for you to pretend it never happened.

If I remember correctly, George Dance denied that.

George made the statements I'd listed. If George denied that he was the boy, then George is a liar.

But we both already know that, don't we?

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 14:10:31 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Sure, there are elements from George Dance's childhood in the poem, but not all the details in the poem are autobiographical, as George has repeatedly stated.

Possibly. But from George's *statements,* he was clearly the bare-assed little boy.
Apparently he's still... wait for it... butt-hurt over the events in the poem, but that's no reason for you to pretend it never happened.

If I remember correctly, George Dance denied that.

If George denied that he was the boy

George Dance has stated that certain aspects of the characters in the poem are fictional, yes.

I'm sure you already know that, though, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 15:46:33 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Sure, there are elements from George Dance's childhood in the poem, but not all the details in the poem are autobiographical, as George has repeatedly stated.

Possibly. But from George's *statements,* he was clearly the bare-assed little boy.
Apparently he's still... wait for it... butt-hurt over the events in the poem, but that's no reason for you to pretend it never happened.

If I remember correctly, George Dance denied that.

If George denied that he was the boy

George Dance has stated that certain aspects of the characters in the poem are fictional, yes.
I'm sure you already know that, though, Pendragon.

We're not talking about every "aspect" of his poem, Donkey... we're talking about the whippings (whippings on a regular basis are strongly implied) that the narrator received.

But I'm sure you already know that as well.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 15:52:44 UTC

I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 15:55:51 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

I quoted his statements, Donkey.

What's scrawny, white and red all over?

George's butt.

W.Dockery

2022-12-14 20:50:13 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

I quoted his statements, Donkey.
What's scrawny, white and red all over?
George's butt.

So, you call that the "high road"?

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 15:59:17 UTC

Like I said, I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

And on that note:

Ping: George J. Dance.

🙂

2022-12-04 16:13:01 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
Like I said, I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.
Ping: George J. Dance.

dance. dance. dance.

Family Guy

2022-12-04 18:40:14 UTC

Post by ***@gmail.com
It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that

...you aren't a trolling scumbag?

Post by ***@gmail.com
a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical!

Is this about George talking about his sad childhood of physical and mental abuse?

Post by ***@gmail.com
this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

A lot of typos in that statement there, champ. Even with them, you still sounded like an idiot.

Spam-I-Am

2022-12-04 19:10:02 UTC

Post by Family Guy

Post by ***@gmail.com
It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that

...you aren't a trolling scumbag?

Post by ***@gmail.com
a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical!

Is this about George talking about his sad childhood of physical and mental abuse?

A lot of typos in that statement there, champ. Even with them, you still sounded like an idiot.

In contrast, the mellifluousness of your eloquence
sounds to me a bit like the slow drip of ketchup
from a bottle onto a burger at a bar with a beer,
as I read in anticipatory elation of every word.
In short, I think you’re swell. Have a nice day.

Will Dockery

2022-12-04 19:22:07 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

I quoted his statements

You quoted George's poetry, not actually statements.

HTH and HAND.

Michael Pendragon

2022-12-04 22:53:01 UTC

Post by Will Dockery
I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

I quoted his statements

You quoted George's poetry, not actually statements.

No, Donkey, I did not.

Find a line in George's poem where he says it's "largely based on" his own experiences.

Find a line in George's poem where he says that all the boys in his house were subject to corporal punishment.

Did you even bother to read George's poem? (Rhetorical question.)

W.Dockery

2022-12-04 14:03:59 UTC

As I wrote earlier, George Dance can speak for himself, he doesn't need you or I to speculate about his meaning and intent.

Here's some of what George Dance has to say about his poem:

"It's a poem I'm proud of. I wrote the first draft quickly,
but I spent several years tweaking it before it went into a book.

The big revision here is the rewrite to L2. In the original discussion,
one of the people trying to cut it to shreds was a poet, and amongst her
complaints she had a criticism I thought valid: it's not clear that the
speaker is the child of the poem now grown up. And I think realizing tht
is essential to appreciating the thing. Having the father been dead for
over a decade makes that much clearer.

As well, it makes certain things more ambiguous, and I think that's a
plus as well. By taking out the old L2, it's no longer clear whether the
house this guy is walking around in is abandoned, or still lived in.
It's also unclear who "they" are; my hidden idea was that the speaker
was under psychiatric care, ant "they" were the ones looking after him,
but I wanted to keep that hidden.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Here's some of what George Dance has to say about the poem. ^^^^^^^

For starters.

Will Dockery

2022-12-05 17:06:37 UTC

It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

There are elements of autobiography in George Dance's poem, but it isn't exactly based on his life, as we know.

George has said

No, you're lying, as usual, Pendragon.

Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon, you sleazy shit spewing little monkey?

🙂

Ash Wurthing

2022-12-05 21:36:42 UTC

You're definitely not a poet or writers and what satisfies you, shows you easy to please...
Your title would be catchier as: "Songs*, stories and poems are not necessarily** autobiographical"
also I would:
* make 'Song' plural since the rest of your subject list are plurals
** change 'necessarilly' to 'necessarily'

Conley Brothers

2022-12-07 04:47:39 UTC

Shut the fuck up, Mr Obvious. In Dockery's case, he has admitted that the garbage he writes is mostly autobiographical.

George J. Dance

2022-12-09 19:25:06 UTC

Post by ***@gmail.com
It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
ubject further, though, let me ask you a follow-up question:

Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en

Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

W-Dockery

2022-12-09 19:39:54 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

Good to see, George, just when Pendragon was starting to say you had "run away".

🙂

Coco DeSockmonkey

2022-12-09 19:41:03 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

You've already given the answer, George. It's "largely based on" one's "own experience," or "largely autobiographical."

If "based on personal experience" = "autobiographical," then "largely based on personal experience" = "largely autobiographical."

Zod

2022-12-09 21:08:04 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

Quite correct, good points, GD....

jdcha...@gmail.com

2022-12-10 02:30:06 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

hi George, thank you, obviously I was referring to your poem when I initiated this post... In answer to your question, no, I wouldn't assume it was autobiographical, and I don't believe that everyone would assume that...

W.Dockery

2022-12-10 19:05:42 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

Agreed, Jordy.

🙂

Will Dockery

2022-12-09 19:57:45 UTC

Post by Coco DeSockmonkey

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

You've already given the answer, George. It's "largely based on" one's "own experience," or "largely autobiographical."
If "based on personal experience" = "autobiographical," then "largely based on personal experience" = "largely autobiographical."

Meaning some of the poem was based on George's personal experience, but not all of it.

HTH and HAND.

Coco DeSockmonkey

2022-12-09 20:06:02 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

You've already given the answer, George. It's "largely based on" one's "own experience," or "largely autobiographical."
If "based on personal experience" = "autobiographical," then "largely based on personal experience" = "largely autobiographical."

Meaning some of the poem was based on George's personal experience, but not all of it.

"Largely" doesn't mean "some," Donkey. It means "mostly."

George has already admitted that the boys in his house were subject to corporal punishment, which means that the bare-assed stanza is one of the true parts.

W-Dockery

2022-12-09 20:44:15 UTC

Post by Coco DeSockmonkey

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

You've already given the answer, George. It's "largely based on" one's "own experience," or "largely autobiographical."
If "based on personal experience" = "autobiographical," then "largely based on personal experience" = "largely autobiographical."

Meaning some of the poem was based on George's personal experience, but not all of it.

"Largely" doesn't mean "some," Donkey. It means "mostly."
George has already admitted that the boys in his house were subject to corporal punishment, which means that the bare-assed stanza is one of the true parts.

No, it doesn't mean that, Pendragon.

It /might/ mean that.

HTH and HAND.

Coco DeSockmonkey

2022-12-09 20:55:05 UTC

Thanks for posting that, Jordy. It's probably the best original piece
you've posted here: on-topic, supported by argument and example, and
reasonable in tone throughout. Since some seem to want to discuss the
Suppose you read a songwriter or poet describing the main character of a
song or poem in this way: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my
own experience, but with some details other men have told me about their
childhoods."
https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
Would you assume that that song or poem was autobiographical? Do you
think anyone must assume that?

You've already given the answer, George. It's "largely based on" one's "own experience," or "largely autobiographical."
If "based on personal experience" = "autobiographical," then "largely based on personal experience" = "largely autobiographical."

Meaning some of the poem was based on George's personal experience, but not all of it.

"Largely" doesn't mean "some," Donkey. It means "mostly."
George has already admitted that the boys in his house were subject to corporal punishment, which means that the bare-assed stanza is one of the true parts.

No, it doesn't mean that, Pendragon.
It /might/ mean that.

If corporal punishment was regularly meted out to all the boys in George's house, the only way he could have escaped the whippings was if he were born a girl, and had a sex change at some point in his adulthood.

W.Dockery

2022-12-09 20:58:32 UTC

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