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Harlan Ellison z"l...27 May 1934-28 June 2018
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Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-28 22:48:17 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018

Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]

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2018-06-28 23:05:27 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018
Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]
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Ellison died?

Sad day, sad sad day....
Zod
2018-06-28 23:33:41 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018
Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]
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Ellison died?
Sad day, sad sad day....
Sad sad day yes it is true............

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2018/06/28/star-trek-scriptwriter-harlan-ellison-master-sci-fi-literature-dies-85/743888002/

'Star Trek' scriptwriter Harlan Ellison, master of sci-fi literature, dies at 84

As best-selling horror master Stephen King put it in a tweet Thursday:

"There was no one quite like him in American letters, and never will be. Angry, funny, eloquent, hugely talented. If there's an afterlife, Harlan is already kicking ass and taking down names."
Will Dockery
2018-06-29 00:46:07 UTC
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Another legend gone.

R.I.P Harlan Ellison.

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Will Dockery
2018-06-29 14:15:08 UTC
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Hopefully the 2017 biography of Harlan Ellison will be made more widely available, soon.
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2018-06-29 14:21:39 UTC
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Why?
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 15:08:50 UTC
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Why?
Because, Corey, Nat Segaloff has total, uncensored access to Reb Ellison's archive, and the biography is quite stunning. Unlike you, he didn't wave his hands, throw tantrums, make sonorous statements of Importance -- then delete them. One cannot take your drivel seriously. You remain a fortune-cookie slip.
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2018-06-29 16:13:34 UTC
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Why?
Because, Corey, Nat Segaloff has total, uncensored access to Reb Ellison's archive, and the biography is quite stunning. Unlike you, he didn't wave his hands, throw tantrums, make sonorous statements of Importance -- then delete them. One cannot take your drivel seriously. You remain a fortune-cookie slip.
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Nat Segaloff's book seems to be a wild ride through the life and times of Harlan Ellison:

https://www.wired.com/2017/10/geeks-guide-harlan-ellison/

“Everybody has to have one troll,” Nat Segaloff says. “If I didn’t I’d think I was doing something wrong. Harlan of course collects them like a magnet and iron filings. But maybe someday if I’m really good I’ll have two trolls.”

:)
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2018-06-29 17:07:45 UTC
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Why should something that is not, and never was in popular demand
be made more widely available now because Ellison has passed?
Why make something available if no one actually avails themselves of it?
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 17:31:33 UTC
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Why should something that is not, and never was in popular demand
be made more widely available now because Ellison has passed?
Why make something available if no one actually avails themselves of it?
Because, Corey, Nat Segaloff has total, uncensored access to Reb Ellison's archive, and the biography is quite stunning. Unlike you, he didn't wave his hands, throw tantrums, make sonorous statements of Importance -- then delete them. One cannot take your drivel seriously. You remain a fortune-cookie slip. What do you mean 'popular demand'? Reb Segeloff's biography was published in a limited edition (still available for about $130.00), and, because Reb Ellison is a pivotal figure in scinematic thought, it should be made more available. You are asking not to have dialogue, but to advance your coy efforts to sell powdered water, then delete them.
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2018-06-29 17:37:16 UTC
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Exactly, published in limited edition, and still available.
Why print more copies of a book that won't sell?
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 17:40:46 UTC
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Exactly, published in limited edition, and still available.
Why print more copies of a book that won't sell?
Private collectors will often make available copies from their collection. If you're not interested -- which, obviously, you are not -- then why perpetrate your encapsulated snideness?

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2018-06-29 17:45:54 UTC
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All I asked was why. No need to get spastic.
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 18:15:07 UTC
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All I asked was why. No need to get spastic.
Then delete even this entry, as you have with the others.

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2018-06-29 18:16:55 UTC
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All I asked was why. No need to get spastic.
Then delete even this entry, as you have with the others.
Pick's always spastic ... he's been off his meds since 1967.
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 19:19:41 UTC
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On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 11:16:57 AM UTC-7, PaedoBarney is confused


Shalom & Boker tov, everyone...PaedoBarney's petulance and lying are irrelevant. I have never been recommended to use them, nor have I ever been prescribed, nor used, psychotropics.

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2018-06-29 19:26:22 UTC
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On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 11:16:57 AM UTC-7, PaedoBarney is confused
Shalom & Boker tov, everyone...PaedoBarney's petulance and lying are irrelevant. I have never been recommended to use them, nor have I ever been prescribed, nor used, psychotropics.
IOW: Pick was prescribed anti-psychotics.
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 19:28:30 UTC
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On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 12:26:23 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney is babbling...
Bullshit. I do not feed the trolls.

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2018-06-29 19:33:13 UTC
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The bitter taste of Haloperidol
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 20:32:37 UTC
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The bitter taste of Haloperidol
Shalom & Erev tov, Corey: I have: never been a patient; never been diagnosed as needing psychotropics; never used psychotropics. This type of foolishness is beneath you.
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2018-06-29 20:35:20 UTC
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The bitter taste of Haloperidol
Shalom & Erev tov, Corey: I have: never been a patient; never been diagnosed as needing psychotropics; never used psychotropics. This type of foolishness is beneath you.
NOTE TO PICK: Check yourself into a mental hospital, get diagnosed, take anti-psychotics.

Five cents, please.
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-06-29 20:37:44 UTC
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On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney still rants...

Coming from a PervWalkerBarney, this is an oxymoron

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2018-06-29 20:54:41 UTC
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On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney still rants...
Coming from a PervWalkerBarney, this is an oxymoron
We can add "oxymoron" to the ever-growing list of words and phrases that Pick refuses to understand.

NOTE: Will's still winning the contest at present, but Pick is definitely closing in on him.
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2018-06-29 20:37:55 UTC
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I don't care what medications you take, dear. I really, really don't.
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2018-06-29 21:22:29 UTC
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I don't care what medications you take, dear. I really, really don't.
Shalom & Erev tov, Corey...that's nice. FYI: metformin; janumet; pravastatin; lisinipril. digoxin; verapamil; trulicity; amlodopine; aspirin. I do not smoke; I do not drink at all (not even a tsp of wine on Shabbos evening); nor do I use any kind of 'recreational' medicine. I daven three times a day; keep kosher; do not even wish for NaziGene and PaedoBarney to perish an early, painful biological death (albeit even if deserved).

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2018-06-29 21:25:15 UTC
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No Lipitor or Flomax? Good for You! Yay!
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2018-06-29 21:27:13 UTC
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No Lipitor or Flomax? Good for You! Yay!
No on both. And you?
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2018-06-29 21:29:37 UTC
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I took a couple aspirin yesterday.
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2018-06-29 21:38:28 UTC
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I took a couple aspirin yesterday.
x1 for me. My A1C is excellent, haven't had to use insulin since 2013. No prostate or thyroid problems. Since 2012 have lost 10% of hearing, so yesterday new tests for new set of hearing aids. Do not have to use dentures, and wear glasses (one for reading, one for seeing at a distance).
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2018-06-29 21:43:42 UTC
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CAN YOU SAY: TMI
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2018-06-29 22:06:24 UTC
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CAN YOU SAY: TMI
I have never had a TMI (Transient ischemic attack).

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General Zod
2018-07-01 06:51:40 UTC
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Found a book of his yesterday at Library....

7 Against Chaos....
Will Dockery
2018-07-02 11:16:33 UTC
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Found a book of his yesterday at Library....
7 Against Chaos....
This one was new to me, seems to be one of the last of Harlan Ellison's works:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3242798/interview-harlan-ellison-talks-7-against-chaos-posterity-and-love-letter-reviews/

"I got the idea of doing this homage–I mean, I love Kurosawa’s The Seven Samurai and then, by extension, The Magnificent Seven–I thought, “Wouldn’t it be wonderful to do The Seven Samurai in space?” -Harlan Ellison
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2018-07-02 23:29:15 UTC
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Found a book of his yesterday at Library....
7 Against Chaos....
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3242798/interview-harlan-ellison-talks-7-against-chaos-posterity-and-love-letter-reviews/
"I got the idea of doing this homage–I mean, I love Kurosawa’s The Seven Samurai and then, by extension, The Magnificent Seven–I thought, “Wouldn’t it be wonderful to do The Seven Samurai in space?” -Harlan Ellison
That is it..... good one.......
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2018-06-29 21:44:52 UTC
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I usually have to get up to pee during the night.
ME
2018-06-29 22:03:29 UTC
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Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.......!!
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2018-06-29 19:02:48 UTC
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No worries, Pickles. Happy to oblige.
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2018-06-29 22:06:52 UTC
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Exactly, published in limited edition, and still available.
Why print more copies of a book that won't sell?
Private collectors will often make available copies from their collection. If you're not interested -- which, obviously, you are not -- then why perpetrate your encapsulated snideness?
So uch of Harlan Ellison's writing had autobiographical elements, I'm very familiar with much of his life, but a full scale biography will be a good read, no doubt about it.
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2018-06-29 22:20:46 UTC
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Exactly, published in limited edition, and still available.
Why print more copies of a book that won't sell?
Private collectors will often make available copies from their collection. If you're not interested -- which, obviously, you are not -- then why perpetrate your encapsulated snideness?
So uch of Harlan Ellison's writing had autobiographical elements, I'm very familiar with much of his life, but a full scale biography will be a good read, no doubt about it.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...Nat Segaloff's book is well worth the read. Reb Harlan asked him to be his biographer, and Reb Nat agreed to do it on the proviso that there be NO censorship. The project began 2011, with 5 years of intensive interviews. Susan Ellison, Leonard Nimoy, so many others participated. I met him in 1964 at the AckerMansion, and he was very nice (and energetic) because I had sense enough not to ask questions.
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2018-06-29 22:52:59 UTC
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Exactly, published in limited edition, and still available.
Why print more copies of a book that won't sell?
Private collectors will often make available copies from their collection. If you're not interested -- which, obviously, you are not -- then why perpetrate your encapsulated snideness?
So uch of Harlan Ellison's writing had autobiographical elements, I'm very familiar with much of his life, but a full scale biography will be a good read, no doubt about it.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...Nat Segaloff's book is well worth the read. Reb Harlan asked him to be his biographer, and Reb Nat agreed to do it on the proviso that there be NO censorship. The project began 2011, with 5 years of intensive interviews. Susan Ellison, Leonard Nimoy, so many others participated. I met him in 1964 at the AckerMansion, and he was very nice (and energetic) because I had sense enough not to ask questions.
Yes, I'm looking forward to it.
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2018-06-30 14:11:46 UTC
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Private collectors will often make available copies from their collection. If you're not interested -- which, obviously, you are not -- then why perpetrate your encapsulated snideness?
So much of Harlan Ellison's writing had autobiographical elements, I'm very familiar with much of his life, but a full scale biography will be a good read, no doubt about it.
But, Ellison also evokes the "Karla rule":

An Edge In His Voice... A Voice From The Edge.

"...Etiquette tips on how to talk to a writer, to wit: 1) never inform the writer you can’t find his or her books; 2) don’t share your personal needs and problems; 3) take care of personal hygiene, please; and 4) don’t read the writer’s personal life into the stories..." -Harlan Ellison
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2018-06-30 05:48:48 UTC
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Why?
Because, Corey, Nat Segaloff has total, uncensored access to Reb Ellison's archive, and the biography is quite stunning. Unlike you, he didn't wave his hands, throw tantrums, make sonorous statements of Importance -- then delete them. One cannot take your drivel seriously. You remain a fortune-cookie slip.
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A good bok I am sure...……..
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2018-06-29 18:14:25 UTC
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The most up-to-date current bibliography of all of Reb Ellison's work is at:

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25

The bibliography at HarlanEllison.com is 11 years out-of-date, but the site is useful.

Susan Ellison has encouraged the development of a complete annotated bibliography (including translations and cover art), which, with computer technology, could be put together.

He was well aware of the fact he was a Yehu'di, and several friends of his said Kaddish today.

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2018-06-29 21:18:39 UTC
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Corey jeers because he never heard of Harlan Ellison until now.

😀
Will Dockery
2018-07-06 13:24:47 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018
Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]
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Here is a nice find, Harlan Ellison in his own voice, circa early 1980s. I haven't read this since that time period, but it was a bit I would return to often... Ellison at his candid, most readable conversational tone:

http://www.tcj.com/the-harlan-ellison-interview/

"This interview with Harlan Ellison was conducted in 1979, and it is therefore a time capsule to a different world of comics culture — and, I suppose, of everything else..." -Gary Groth
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2018-07-07 21:54:08 UTC
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On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:24:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:

Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
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Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
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I need to see if the story of him and Woody Allen , or rather one of them,
is online...
Will Dockery
2018-07-20 00:07:06 UTC
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Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
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I need to see if the story of him and Woody Allen , or rather one of them,
is online...
This is the one I remembered:

http://novelpark.org/novel-online/harlan-ellisons-watching-part-20

I was talking to Woody Allen the other afternoon... and he looked at me out of the middle of a conversation about something else entirely, and he asked me, "How come they've never given me a Hugo award? Whaddaya think, anti-Semitism?"

"But I've done so much fantasy and science fiction," he said. "Sleeper was pure sf. So was Zelig. And what about that flying saucer at the end of Stardust Memories? Or the fantasy subtext of A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy; or the sperm fantasy segment in Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Etcetera)? I bet if L. Ron Hubbard had written Purple Rose of Cairo they'd have given it a Hugo . . . I mean, it is sort of a hip, updated version of Typewriter in the Sky..."

Follow the link for the rest of the story, because one thing Harlan Ellison hated was to have his works quoted on the internet...
Will Dockery
2018-07-20 12:38:54 UTC
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Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
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I need to see if the story of him and Woody Allen , or rather one of them,
is online...
http://novelpark.org/novel-online/harlan-ellisons-watching-part-20
I was talking to Woody Allen the other afternoon... and he looked at me out of the middle of a conversation about something else entirely, and he asked me, "How come they've never given me a Hugo award? Whaddaya think, anti-Semitism?"
"But I've done so much fantasy and science fiction," he said. "Sleeper was pure sf. So was Zelig. And what about that flying saucer at the end of Stardust Memories? Or the fantasy subtext of A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy; or the sperm fantasy segment in Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Etcetera)? I bet if L. Ron Hubbard had written Purple Rose of Cairo they'd have given it a Hugo . . . I mean, it is sort of a hip, updated version of Typewriter in the Sky..."
Follow the link for the rest of the story, because one thing Harlan Ellison hated was to have his works quoted on the internet...
https://submittedforyourperusal.com/2011/11/21/woody-allen-science-fiction-filmmaker/

"In Part 1 of Woody Allen: A Documentary, which aired last night on PBS (Part 2 airs tonight), documentary maker Robert Weide tells Allen that Sleeper was the first time he ever heard the term “cloning.” Allen nods and says that’s why he felt the need to include a scene explaining it; no one at the time knew what cloning was. Now, of course, Allen jokes, everybody clones..."

"This exchange reminded me of Harlan Ellison’s argument that Woody Allen is partly, maybe even primarily, a science fiction filmmaker":

"Can I be the only reader of fantastic literature to perceive that Woody Allen has been, and continues to be, one of our best filmic interpreters of the je ne sais quoi we call “the sense of wonder”? Surely not. Surely some other observer of the flickering screen image has stumbled on this obvious truth! But I search in vain through all the treatises on Woody, and I find no support for my theory... But nowhere does anyone simply say, 'This guy has a for-real science-fictional-fantasy outlook'..." -Harlan Ellison

"Ellison calls Sleeper and Zelig and The Purple Rose of Cairo “pure SF,” and contends that many of Allen’s other films have science fiction and/or fantasy elements..."

"Since Harlan Ellison wrote the above words in 1987, Allen has made Deconstructing Harry, Melinda and Melinda, and Midnight in Paris – all movies that, when you think about it, are essentially science fiction films. Hell, one might even argue that Woody Allen is one of the premier science fiction filmmakers of the last fifty years..." -Matt Thomas
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-07-20 17:29:19 UTC
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On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:38:55 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:

Reb Harlan was close to Reb Woody, and, over the years, made his support without questions. Reb Harlan did not believe any of the phantasies of Mia Farrow, and neither did Reb Woody's son, Moses Farrow.

Robert E. Weide, 2014. The Woody Allen allegations: not so fast. www.TheDailyBeas.com, 27 January

Woody Allen, 2014. Woody Allen speaks out. The New York Times 8 February:SR9

John H. Foote, 2018. I believe Woody Allen is innocent. Here's why. TheCinemaholic.com, 26 January

Moses Farrow, 2018. A son speaks out. MosesFarrow.blogspot.com, 23 May

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2018-07-20 17:43:41 UTC
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"Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di" wrote in message news:5004734a-3aa7-4662-984f-***@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:38:55 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:

Reb Harlan was close to Reb Woody, and, over the years, made his support
without questions. Reb Harlan did not believe any of the phantasies of Mia
Farrow, and neither did Reb Woody's son, Moses Farrow.

Robert E. Weide, 2014. The Woody Allen allegations: not so fast.
www.TheDailyBeas.com, 27 January

Woody Allen, 2014. Woody Allen speaks out. The New York Times 8 February:SR9

John H. Foote, 2018. I believe Woody Allen is innocent. Here's why.
TheCinemaholic.com, 26 January

Moses Farrow, 2018. A son speaks out. MosesFarrow.blogspot.com, 23 May

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Thanks for the update, Stephan.
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2018-07-20 17:44:44 UTC
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Reb Harlan was close to Reb Woody, and, over the years, made his support without questions.
What kind of English grammar is "made his support"?
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2018-07-20 17:54:58 UTC
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What kind of English grammar is "made his support"?
Shalom & Boker tov...being uneducated, NaziGene needs assistance. Let us phrase the statement so he grasp the already correct grammar: '...over the years made his support [known] without questions'.

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2018-07-20 19:40:57 UTC
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Post by NancyGene
What kind of English grammar is "made his support"?
Shalom & Boker tov...being uneducated, NaziGene needs assistance. Let us phrase the statement so he grasp the already correct grammar: '...over the years made his support [known] without questions'.
Why would you possibly omit "known" or place it in brackets? It's a necessary part of the sentence.

And while we're on the subject of grammar, "so he grasp" is also incorrect (unless one goes by the name of "Cheetah," of course). Let's see if you can rephrase that correctly as well.
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 12:23:23 UTC
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Reb Harlan was close to Reb Woody, and, over the years, made his support without questions.
What kind of English grammar is "made his support"?
I take it like "showed" his support.
Michael Pendragon
2018-07-30 12:54:34 UTC
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Reb Harlan was close to Reb Woody, and, over the years, made his support without questions.
What kind of English grammar is "made his support"?
I take it like "showed" his support.
It isn't a matter of preference, Will.
Brainiac 5
2018-07-23 05:33:18 UTC
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Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need to see if the story of him and Woody Allen , or rather one of them,
is online...
http://novelpark.org/novel-online/harlan-ellisons-watching-part-20
I was talking to Woody Allen the other afternoon... and he looked at me out of the middle of a conversation about something else entirely, and he asked me, "How come they've never given me a Hugo award? Whaddaya think, anti-Semitism?"
"But I've done so much fantasy and science fiction," he said. "Sleeper was pure sf. So was Zelig. And what about that flying saucer at the end of Stardust Memories? Or the fantasy subtext of A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy; or the sperm fantasy segment in Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Etcetera)? I bet if L. Ron Hubbard had written Purple Rose of Cairo they'd have given it a Hugo . . . I mean, it is sort of a hip, updated version of Typewriter in the Sky..."
Follow the link for the rest of the story, because one thing Harlan Ellison hated was to have his works quoted on the internet...
https://submittedforyourperusal.com/2011/11/21/woody-allen-science-fiction-filmmaker/
"In Part 1 of Woody Allen: A Documentary, which aired last night on PBS (Part 2 airs tonight), documentary maker Robert Weide tells Allen that Sleeper was the first time he ever heard the term “cloning.” Allen nods and says that’s why he felt the need to include a scene explaining it; no one at the time knew what cloning was. Now, of course, Allen jokes, everybody clones..."
"Can I be the only reader of fantastic literature to perceive that Woody Allen has been, and continues to be, one of our best filmic interpreters of the je ne sais quoi we call “the sense of wonder”? Surely not. Surely some other observer of the flickering screen image has stumbled on this obvious truth! But I search in vain through all the treatises on Woody, and I find no support for my theory... But nowhere does anyone simply say, 'This guy has a for-real science-fictional-fantasy outlook'..." -Harlan Ellison
"Ellison calls Sleeper and Zelig and The Purple Rose of Cairo “pure SF,” and contends that many of Allen’s other films have science fiction and/or fantasy elements..."
"Since Harlan Ellison wrote the above words in 1987, Allen has made Deconstructing Harry, Melinda and Melinda, and Midnight in Paris – all movies that, when you think about it, are essentially science fiction films. Hell, one might even argue that Woody Allen is one of the premier science fiction filmmakers of the last fifty years..." -Matt Thomas
Good work...…………….
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 17:55:45 UTC
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Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need to see if the story of him and Woody Allen , or rather one of them,
is online...
http://novelpark.org/novel-online/harlan-ellisons-watching-part-20
I was talking to Woody Allen the other afternoon... and he looked at me
out of the middle of a conversation about something else entirely, and
he asked me, "How come they've never given me a Hugo award? Whaddaya
think, anti-Semitism?"
"But I've done so much fantasy and science fiction," he said. "Sleeper
was pure sf. So was Zelig. And what about that flying saucer at the end
of Stardust Memories? Or the fantasy subtext of A Midsummer Night's Sex
Comedy; or the sperm fantasy segment in Everything You Always Wanted to
Know About Sex (But Etcetera)? I bet if L. Ron Hubbard had written
Purple Rose of Cairo they'd have given it a Hugo . . . I mean, it is
sort of a hip, updated version of Typewriter in the Sky..."
Follow the link for the rest of the story, because one thing Harlan
Ellison hated was to have his works quoted on the internet...
https://submittedforyourperusal.com/2011/11/21/woody-allen-science-fiction-filmmaker/
"In Part 1 of Woody Allen: A Documentary, which aired last night on PBS
(Part 2 airs tonight), documentary maker Robert Weide tells Allen that
Sleeper was the first time he ever heard the term “cloning.” Allen nods
and says that’s why he felt the need to include a scene explaining it; no
one at the time knew what cloning was. Now, of course, Allen jokes,
everybody clones..."
"This exchange reminded me of Harlan Ellison’s argument that Woody Allen
"Can I be the only reader of fantastic literature to perceive that Woody
Allen has been, and continues to be, one of our best filmic interpreters
of the je ne sais quoi we call “the sense of wonder”? Surely not. Surely
some other observer of the flickering screen image has stumbled on this
obvious truth! But I search in vain through all the treatises on Woody,
and I find no support for my theory... But nowhere does anyone simply say,
'This guy has a for-real science-fictional-fantasy outlook'..." -Harlan
Ellison
"Ellison calls Sleeper and Zelig and The Purple Rose of Cairo “pure SF,”
and contends that many of Allen’s other films have science fiction and/or
fantasy elements..."
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"Since Harlan Ellison wrote the above words in 1987, Allen has made
Deconstructing Harry, Melinda and Melinda, and Midnight in Paris – all
movies that, when you think about it, are essentially science fiction
films. Hell, one might even argue that Woody Allen is one of the premier
science fiction filmmakers of the last fifty years..." -Matt Thomas
Good work...…………….
I'd venture to suggest that Harlan Ellison never wrote a bad story, or poem.
Bean Counter
2018-07-31 07:01:07 UTC
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Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need to see if the story of him and Woody Allen , or rather one of them,
is online...
http://novelpark.org/novel-online/harlan-ellisons-watching-part-20
I was talking to Woody Allen the other afternoon... and he looked at me out of the middle of a conversation about something else entirely, and he asked me, "How come they've never given me a Hugo award? Whaddaya think, anti-Semitism?"
"But I've done so much fantasy and science fiction," he said. "Sleeper was pure sf. So was Zelig. And what about that flying saucer at the end of Stardust Memories? Or the fantasy subtext of A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy; or the sperm fantasy segment in Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Etcetera)? I bet if L. Ron Hubbard had written Purple Rose of Cairo they'd have given it a Hugo . . . I mean, it is sort of a hip, updated version of Typewriter in the Sky..."
Follow the link for the rest of the story, because one thing Harlan Ellison hated was to have his works quoted on the internet...
Two very talented artists...………………….
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 14:59:16 UTC
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Michael Pendragon's bizarre fantasies about the life and family of Stephan
Pickering is noted... again.

:)
m***@gmail.com
2018-07-30 15:02:15 UTC
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Michael Pendragon's bizarre fantasies about the life and family of Stephan
Pickering is noted... again.
I'd asked Pick if his daughter were of the inflatable or silicon variety. He answered that he has never had an inflatable daughter.

Significantly, he did not deny having a silicon daughter.
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 15:13:46 UTC
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Like me, Stephan probably doesn't know the intimate details of such products
as you seem to, Pen.
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2018-07-30 15:16:43 UTC
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Like me, Stephan probably doesn't know the intimate details of such products
as you seem to, Pen.
you pay 'real' flesh to fuck....what a fucking loser.
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2018-07-30 15:16:28 UTC
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"Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di" wrote in message news:09bb0461-d2b5-4018-84f0-***@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:24:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:

Benjamin Ivry, 2018. Sci-fi visionary Harlan Ellison reveled in his
Jewishness. Forward.com, 29 June
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Finding dozens of great television interviews with Ellison on YouTube... too
many to link to...
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 15:19:33 UTC
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I've done a lot of things, Jim... and of course none of it is your business.

:)
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2018-07-30 15:25:29 UTC
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I've done a lot of things, Jim... and of course none of it is your business.
:)
you've told us...it's our business. You pay whores to fuck...no why, we might ask...simple, no woman worth anything would allow you to 'mount up'....Your 'Truck Stop Woman' shows you coming out of the woods, zipping your fly...that says it all...you were born a loser....keep your eyes open.
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I've done a lot of things, Jim... and of course none of it is your business.
:)
you've told us...it's our business. You pay whores to fuck...no why, we might ask...simple, no woman worth anything would allow you to 'mount up'....Your 'Truck Stop Woman' shows you coming out of the woods, zipping your fly...that says it all...you were born a loser....keep your eyes open.
Must you subject your illiterate bullshit onto others? We know who you are, fascist.

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2018-07-30 15:34:16 UTC
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I've done a lot of things, Jim... and of course none of it is your business.
:)
you've told us...it's our business. You pay whores to fuck...no why, we might ask...simple, no woman worth anything would allow you to 'mount up'....Your 'Truck Stop Woman' shows you coming out of the woods, zipping your fly...that says it all...you were born a loser....keep your eyes open.
Must you subject your illiterate bullshit onto others? We know who you are, fascist.
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Ah the "Jew" is awake...how you doing old friend? You know your friend Jowls....come down to his hayseed town in August...we can settle unfinished business all at once....leave that blow-up doll at home....
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 15:28:53 UTC
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You were the one who mentioned the Karla Rogers quote, Jim.

Apply it here, now.

:)
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Hello, Stephan, most of the regulars know of Jim's visit... I have described
him as a poet and a vocalist from Long Island, and the host, Henry will be
inviting him to do a set of poems and music.

As for trouble and violence, the bar staff shuts that down quickly and
effectively... but Wednesday is a mellow night of music and poetry, such
violent types don't even have an interest in attending.
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2018-07-09 05:06:52 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018
Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]
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http://www.tcj.com/the-harlan-ellison-interview/
"This interview with Harlan Ellison was conducted in 1979, and it is therefore a time capsule to a different world of comics culture — and, I suppose, of everything else..." -Gary Groth
This is his voice, like when he was on Tom Snider all the time...……..
Will Dockery
2018-07-20 17:36:42 UTC
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Oh yeah, that Woody Allen scandal... blown out of proportion by the tabloids I suspect.
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 13:21:58 UTC
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The English language is flexible and evolving, and many of us are capable of interpretation and "reading between the lines" .

😀
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The English language is flexible and evolving, and many of us are capable of interpretation and "reading between the lines" .
OMFG, but you are one dumb ass mother fucker.

"Showed his support" is proper English.

"Made his support" is gibberish.

Correct English is not a matter of what NancyGene, myself, or anyone else "prefers."

Nor does your oft-repeated claim that "language is flexible" excuse your functional illiteracy and the consequent abuses of our language which arise from it.
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2018-07-30 14:27:00 UTC
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The English language is flexible and evolving, and many of us are capable of interpretation and "reading between the lines" .
😀
Shalom & Boker tov, Will...am spending time later this a.m. with my daughter, but wanted to tell you PaedoLizard is 'on a roll' of lying and libel. He cannot write, and you can safely ignore his grammar bullshit lessons.
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The English language is flexible and evolving, and many of us are capable of interpretation and "reading between the lines" .
😀
Shalom & Boker tov, Will...am spending time later this a.m. with my daughter, but wanted to tell you PaedoLizard is 'on a roll' of lying and libel. He cannot write, and you can safely ignore his grammar bullshit lessons.
Is that your inflatable daughter or the silicon daughter?
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Will...you will note DiarrhoeaLizard is now calling one of my two daughters an inflatable sex doll, part of his PaedoDelusion...
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Will...you will note DiarrhoeaLizard is now calling one of my two daughters an inflatable sex doll, part of his PaedoDelusion...
Thank you for answering my question.

I don't believe you could afford the silicon version, but what the hey ... from now on, I'll refer to your daughter as being of the silicon or latex variety.
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Odd the way Jim posts his violent stalking fantasy over and over on public
Usenet, isn't it?
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2018-07-30 15:37:08 UTC
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Odd the way Jim posts his violent stalking fantasy over and over on public
Usenet, isn't it?
What fantasy?....I'll be in your neck o the woods...have cash waiting..you know the cash you conned me out of....keep your eyes open for this senile old man...you just might be surprised....

Now you go and sulk with that thing you call a scholar....


See ya, Jowls.
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 15:38:03 UTC
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No, Jim, I wrote that if you wanted to have a friendly meeting on nthe
Wednesday music night, we could... but leave your violent fantasy at the
door.

:)
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2018-07-30 15:40:54 UTC
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No, I have a $50 money order for you, to make out in your name, Jim.

So if you want to meet me on a friendly level, we can do this, but leave
your violent fantasy at the door.

:)
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2018-07-30 15:42:39 UTC
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No, I have a $50 money order for you, to make out in your name, Jim.
So if you want to meet me on a friendly level, we can do this, but leave
your violent fantasy at the door.
:)
Basically, your a coward, like the rest of your crew.


see ya in town.
Will Dockery
2018-07-30 15:47:03 UTC
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No, basically you've had this violent fantasy about me for a year now, and I
don't play along with it.

You know where I said we can meet, but leave your violent fantasy at home,
Jim.

:)
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2018-07-30 16:05:47 UTC
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No, basically you've had this violent fantasy about me for a year now, and I
don't play along with it.
You know where I said we can meet, but leave your violent fantasy at home,
Jim.
:)
Will...remember, you have security, and if he is as unstable as I think he is (much like NaziGene), it is better to be protected.
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2018-08-07 07:58:44 UTC
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The English language is flexible and evolving, and many of us are capable of interpretation and "reading between the lines" .
😀
You sure got that right there Doc...…………………...
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2018-08-08 13:56:58 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018
Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]
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From the June 2001 issue of Playgrounds Magazine:

http://r144.com/fjna2p20608.htm

June 8, 2001
To The Magic Store
By Will Dockery
Ellison in Shadowville:

"I was drafted in March of 1957 and wrote the bulk of the book (Web Of The City) while undergoing the horrors of Ranger basic training at Fort Benning,
Georgia. After a full day, from damn near dawn till well after dusk, marching, drilling, crawling on my belly across infiltration courses, jumping off static-line towers, learning to carve people with bayonets and break their bodies with judo and other unpleasant martial arts, our company would be fed and then hustled to the barracks, where the crazed killers who were my fellow troupers would clean their weapons, spit-shine their boots, and then collapse across their bunks to the sleep of the tormented. I, on the other hand, would take a wooden plank, my Olympia typewriter, and my box of manuscript and blank paper,
and would go into the head (that's the toilet to you civilized folks), place the board across my lap as I sat on one of the potties, and I would write (Web Of
The City)..." -Harlan Ellison, introduction to "Web Of The City"

Mysterious Visions Anthology: an "homage" to Harlan Ellison, round about ways. Well we don't have a poetry reading lined up yet for Columbus, folks, it's still scattershot poets having impromtu readings and sharings of the words for
this month as was last month, things are looking good for a permanent home to poetry readings, but I and the others are taking things kind of cautiously because we want a reading place that'll be conducive to the best interests of both the sponsoring establishment as well as the poets... a mutual symbiosis, or somesuch. I'm in favor, pretty much, of the idea of keeping the foul language out, as was our former hosts, but not nearly so heavy handed (and money driven) as they were. I think any poet worth his or her salt can manage to create poems, express ideas without using the various "F" "S" & "G-D" words and still get the message out, and in fact, I feel that it's the mark of a truly great poet to be able to express and convey ANY thoughts whatsoever, be they sexual, dark, what have you, without these words and actually come out with a better piece of work to show for it anyway. If you get my drift. What is on the table, and the first volume already out probably by the time you read these words, is a monthly poetry collection, known as Mysterious Visions Anthology, published by Ian Shires (6733 Erie Ave./Madison Ohio 44057) and edited by me.

This is in effect, a PRINTED poetry reading each month, with new and established poets of all stripes, giving a good view of the whole of poetry, both locally here in Shadowville, as well as around the country. I'm holding to the no bad words thing myself here (though there's no hard and fast rules against them, just if you use words like that, make 'em COUNT) and to get to the point, I'm soliciting your submissions.

Make sure your poems are TYPED, "camera ready". There of course will be extra special exceptions to this rule, but, by and large, we're gonna be pretty
strict about that. Subject matter is pretty wide range, but poetry that centers on metaphysical of symbolic, the "mystical", "spiritual", and "visionary" stuff, will of course catch my eye more than sing-song doggerel. Just send some stuff, don't be afeared!

About the "homage," (a French word meaning roughly: tribute) Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions, back well nigh thirty years ago, so Mysterious Visions (not my title, it's the publisher, Ian's, who synchronistically happens to be, like
Harlan, an Ohio boy, Ian from Strongsville, Harlan from Painesville.) It's a natural, co-incidental homage, but straight from the heart. Meanwhile, don't forget that Vickie Carson of Playgrounds is also actively seeking non-depressing poetry. So don't be a stranger! See ya next month, and may the force be with you!

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RIP Harlan Ellison.
NancyGene
2018-08-08 17:40:37 UTC
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On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:56:59 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:

Will’s writing ability has not improved after 17 years, and this example from 2001 shows no facility with language. It’s a good thing he wasn’t being paid for his contributions.
Post by Will Dockery
Mysterious Visions Anthology: an "homage" to Harlan Ellison, round about ways.
About a million miles away.
Post by Will Dockery
Well we don't have a poetry reading lined up yet for Columbus, folks, it's still scattershot poets having impromtu readings and sharings of the words for this month as was last month, things are looking good for a permanent home to poetry readings, but I and the others are taking things kind of cautiously because we want a reading place that'll be conducive to the best interests of both the sponsoring establishment as well as the poets... a mutual symbiosis, or somesuch.
Impromptu is spelled wrong. This is one long run-on sentence! “I and the others”, “kind of”, “both” and “as well as” are used wrong.
Post by Will Dockery
I'm in favor, pretty much, of the idea of keeping the foul language out, as was our former hosts, but not nearly so heavy handed (and money driven) as they were.
How much is “pretty much” and does that have a place in formal writing? “As was our former hosts” should be “as were…”.
Post by Will Dockery
I think any poet worth his or her salt
Big-ass cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
can manage to create poems, express ideas without using the various "F" "S" & "G-D" words and still get the message out, and in fact, I feel that it's the mark of a truly great poet to be able to express and convey ANY thoughts whatsoever, be they sexual, dark, what have you, without these words and actually come out with a better piece of work to show for it anyway.
“and in fact” should not be used here. “to show for it anyway” – how would you know this? Citations?
Post by Will Dockery
If you get my drift.
Cliched writing, really bad. What if they don’t get your drift?
Post by Will Dockery
What is on the table,
Cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
and the first volume already out probably by the time you read these words,
But maybe not?
Post by Will Dockery
is a monthly poetry collection, known as Mysterious Visions Anthology, published by Ian Shires (6733 Erie Ave./Madison Ohio 44057) and edited by me.
This address doesn’t seem to exist now. The guy is manager of “Self Publisher Association”. Edited by you is not a mark of excellence.
Post by Will Dockery
This is in effect,
Another cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
a PRINTED poetry reading each month, with new and established poets of all stripes,
Another cliché. What kinds of stripes do your poets have?
Post by Will Dockery
giving a good view of the whole of poetry, both locally here in Shadowville, as well as
You are misusing “both” and “as well as” yet again. Your GED is jumping up to bite you.
Post by Will Dockery
around the country. I'm holding to the no bad words thing
“no bad words thing”. How about a better description of “the thing”. You are a terrible writer.
Post by Will Dockery
myself here (though there's no hard and fast rules
“There are no hard and fast rules”, but that is also a cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
against them, just if you use words like that, make 'em COUNT) and to get to the point, I'm soliciting your submissions.
Who decides if a shit or damn counts? “and to get to the point” – why are you off the point?
Post by Will Dockery
Make sure your poems are TYPED, "camera ready". There of course will be extra special exceptions to this rule, but, by and large,
Make sure but there are exceptions, so this really means submit anyway. “By and large” is another cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
we're gonna be pretty strict about that.
How strict is “pretty strict”?
Post by Will Dockery
Subject matter is pretty wide range,
You should not use “pretty” again here, and of course it should be “wide ranging”.
Post by Will Dockery
but poetry that centers on metaphysical of symbolic, the "mystical", "spiritual", and "visionary" stuff,
What is “metaphysical of symbolic”? Please define “stuff”, which should not be in your writings.
Post by Will Dockery
will of course catch my eye
Another cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
more than sing-song doggerel. Just send some stuff, don't be afeared!
How about some fecal stuff? “Afeared”? Really?
Post by Will Dockery
About the "homage," (a French word meaning roughly: tribute)
For your more stupid readers.
Post by Will Dockery
Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions,
Never heard of it. It wasn’t taught in college.
Post by Will Dockery
back well nigh thirty years ago,
Are you trying to be Huckleberry Finn?
Post by Will Dockery
so Mysterious Visions (not my title, it's the publisher, Ian's,
Why would anyone care?
Post by Will Dockery
who synchronistically happens to be, like Harlan, an Ohio boy, Ian from Strongsville, Harlan from Painesville.) It's a natural, co-incidental homage, but straight from the heart.
How many people do you think are from or in Ohio? “Straight from the heart” as in Bryan Adams?
Post by Will Dockery
Meanwhile,
Really?
Post by Will Dockery
don't forget that Vickie Carson of Playgrounds is also actively seeking non-depressing poetry.
How could they forget if they didn’t know it in the first place? Define “non-depressing”.
Post by Will Dockery
So don't be a stranger!
You are an awful writer. You need an editor.
Post by Will Dockery
See ya next month, and may the force be with you!
You bring in a Star Wars reference for some reason to end your compilations of cliches?
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-08-08 18:04:18 UTC
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On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 10:40:39 AM UTC-7, NaziGene is repeating himself...

NaziGene cannot write or draw or paint or compose or sculpt or publish. In frustration, he is predictably whining, and his mental insufficiencies are beyond repair.

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2018-08-08 18:18:44 UTC
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Will’s writing ability has not improved after 17 years, and this example from 2001 shows no facility with language. It’s a good thing he wasn’t being paid for his contributions.
Post by Will Dockery
Mysterious Visions Anthology: an "homage" to Harlan Ellison, round about ways.
About a million miles away.
Post by Will Dockery
Well we don't have a poetry reading lined up yet for Columbus, folks, it's still scattershot poets having impromtu readings and sharings of the words for this month as was last month, things are looking good for a permanent home to poetry readings, but I and the others are taking things kind of cautiously because we want a reading place that'll be conducive to the best interests of both the sponsoring establishment as well as the poets... a mutual symbiosis, or somesuch.
Impromptu is spelled wrong. This is one long run-on sentence! “I and the others”, “kind of”, “both” and “as well as” are used wrong.
Post by Will Dockery
I'm in favor, pretty much, of the idea of keeping the foul language out, as was our former hosts, but not nearly so heavy handed (and money driven) as they were.
How much is “pretty much” and does that have a place in formal writing? “As was our former hosts” should be “as were…”.
Post by Will Dockery
I think any poet worth his or her salt
Big-ass cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
can manage to create poems, express ideas without using the various "F" "S" & "G-D" words and still get the message out, and in fact, I feel that it's the mark of a truly great poet to be able to express and convey ANY thoughts whatsoever, be they sexual, dark, what have you, without these words and actually come out with a better piece of work to show for it anyway.
“and in fact” should not be used here. “to show for it anyway” – how would you know this? Citations?
Post by Will Dockery
If you get my drift.
Cliched writing, really bad. What if they don’t get your drift?
Post by Will Dockery
What is on the table,
Cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
and the first volume already out probably by the time you read these words,
But maybe not?
Post by Will Dockery
is a monthly poetry collection, known as Mysterious Visions Anthology, published by Ian Shires (6733 Erie Ave./Madison Ohio 44057) and edited by me.
This address doesn’t seem to exist now. The guy is manager of “Self Publisher Association”. Edited by you is not a mark of excellence.
Post by Will Dockery
This is in effect,
Another cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
a PRINTED poetry reading each month, with new and established poets of all stripes,
Another cliché. What kinds of stripes do your poets have?
Post by Will Dockery
giving a good view of the whole of poetry, both locally here in Shadowville, as well as
You are misusing “both” and “as well as” yet again. Your GED is jumping up to bite you.
Post by Will Dockery
around the country. I'm holding to the no bad words thing
“no bad words thing”. How about a better description of “the thing”. You are a terrible writer.
Post by Will Dockery
myself here (though there's no hard and fast rules
“There are no hard and fast rules”, but that is also a cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
against them, just if you use words like that, make 'em COUNT) and to get to the point, I'm soliciting your submissions.
Who decides if a shit or damn counts? “and to get to the point” – why are you off the point?
Post by Will Dockery
Make sure your poems are TYPED, "camera ready". There of course will be extra special exceptions to this rule, but, by and large,
Make sure but there are exceptions, so this really means submit anyway. “By and large” is another cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
we're gonna be pretty strict about that.
How strict is “pretty strict”?
Post by Will Dockery
Subject matter is pretty wide range,
You should not use “pretty” again here, and of course it should be “wide ranging”.
Post by Will Dockery
but poetry that centers on metaphysical of symbolic, the "mystical", "spiritual", and "visionary" stuff,
What is “metaphysical of symbolic”? Please define “stuff”, which should not be in your writings.
Post by Will Dockery
will of course catch my eye
Another cliché.
Post by Will Dockery
more than sing-song doggerel. Just send some stuff, don't be afeared!
How about some fecal stuff? “Afeared”? Really?
Post by Will Dockery
About the "homage," (a French word meaning roughly: tribute)
For your more stupid readers.
Post by Will Dockery
Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions,
Never heard of it. It wasn’t taught in college.
Post by Will Dockery
back well nigh thirty years ago,
Are you trying to be Huckleberry Finn?
Post by Will Dockery
so Mysterious Visions (not my title, it's the publisher, Ian's,
Why would anyone care?
Post by Will Dockery
who synchronistically happens to be, like Harlan, an Ohio boy, Ian from Strongsville, Harlan from Painesville.) It's a natural, co-incidental homage, but straight from the heart.
How many people do you think are from or in Ohio? “Straight from the heart” as in Bryan Adams?
Post by Will Dockery
Meanwhile,
Really?
Post by Will Dockery
don't forget that Vickie Carson of Playgrounds is also actively seeking non-depressing poetry.
How could they forget if they didn’t know it in the first place? Define “non-depressing”.
Post by Will Dockery
So don't be a stranger!
You are an awful writer. You need an editor.
Post by Will Dockery
See ya next month, and may the force be with you!
You bring in a Star Wars reference for some reason to end your compilations of cliches?
NG, y’all nailed that one to the fucking wall!
Will Dockery
2018-08-08 18:44:22 UTC
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Will’s writing ability has not improved after 17 years
As if I could expect a good critique from a biased, malicious troll such as you, NG?

:)
Michael Pendragon
2018-08-08 21:28:48 UTC
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Post by NancyGene
Will’s writing ability has not improved after 17 years
As if I could expect a good critique from a biased, malicious troll such as you, NG?
How was that not a great critique, Will?

Oh, right ... it found your writing skills ... lax.

If you were serious about your writing, you would take this as an opportunity to both recognize your faults, and to improve your skills as a writer.

You should be thanking NancyGene for having taken the time and effort to critique your article.

But then you've never been serious about your writing.
Will Dockery
2018-08-08 21:44:52 UTC
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How was that not a great critique, Will?
Oh, right ... it found your writing skills ... lax.
Oh, it was just a hatchet job, for one thing.

:)
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-08-25 22:24:22 UTC
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On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 10:40:39 AM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:

WILL DOCKERY > > Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions,
Post by NancyGene
Never heard of it. It wasn’t taught in college.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...NaziGene has no education, and this confession by him speaks for itself. He is illiterate.

Harlan Ellison, 1967. ed., Dangerous visions (Doubleday), 1-520
Harlan Ellison, 1972. Again, dangerous visions (Doubleday), 1-760

Relentlessly, Will, NaziGene exposes stupidity. Wikipedia is not an education substitute. He has made reprehensible racist comments about Nelly Black, ignorant comments about the 'land of Dixie', anti-intellectual comments about sociobiological subjects. Need more? He cannot write or paint or draw or compose, or make intelligent extrapolations about any of the paradigms of these intellectual artforms.

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Will Dockery
2018-08-25 22:26:48 UTC
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NG does reveal a malicious agenda with almost every post.
Michael Pendragon
2018-08-25 23:32:41 UTC
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WILL DOCKERY > > Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions,
Post by NancyGene
Never heard of it. It wasn’t taught in college.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...NaziGene has no education, and this confession by him speaks for itself. He is illiterate.
I've never heard of it, either -- and I took a Science Fiction course in college.

You never attended college, did you, Pick?
Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di
2018-08-25 23:40:15 UTC
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I've never heard of it, either -- and I took a Science Fiction course in college.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...that this troll is not familiar with any of the major sci-fi compendiums is illustrative.

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2018-08-25 23:46:06 UTC
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WILL DOCKERY > > Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions,
Post by NancyGene
Never heard of it. It wasn’t taught in college.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...NaziGene has no education, and this confession by him speaks for itself. He is illiterate.
I've never heard of it, either -- and I took a Science Fiction course in college.
You're not really much of a Science Fiction fan, are you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Visions

The stories and the anthology itself were nominated for and received many awards. "Gonna Roll the Bones" by Fritz Leiber received both a Hugo Award and a Nebula Award for Best novelette, whilst Philip K. Dick's submission "Faith of Our Fathers" was a nominee for the Hugo in the same category. Philip José Farmer tied for the Hugo Award for Best Novella for "Riders of the Purple Wage". Samuel R. Delany won the Nebula for Best Short Story for "Aye, and Gomorrah..." Harlan Ellison received a special citation at the 26th World SF Convention for editing "the most significant and controversial SF book published in 1967."
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2018-08-26 00:14:13 UTC
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WILL DOCKERY > > Ellison edited the ground breaking and justly famous short story anthology Dangerous Visions,
Post by NancyGene
Never heard of it. It wasn’t taught in college.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...NaziGene has no education, and this confession by him speaks for itself. He is illiterate.
I've never heard of it, either -- and I took a Science Fiction course in college.
You're not really much of a Science Fiction fan, are you?
That depends on which science fiction works you're talking about.

I like Lewis' "Out of This Silent Planet" trilogy and Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land" (also several of his short stories). Boorman's book version of "Zardoz" is also a big favorite. Wells' "The Time Machine," Huxley's "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984" are, of course, included on my list. I also enjoyed the first three of Adams' "Hitchhiker's Guides."

Oddly, most of the short stories and novels I studied in the sci-fi class left me flat (including a short story by Heinlein): LeGuin's "The Left Hand of Darkness," Dick's "The Man in the High Castle," and ... some other outer space book.
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2018-08-25 18:27:38 UTC
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Harlan Ellison z"l... 27 May 1934-28 June 2018
Nat Segaloff, 2017. A lit fuse: the provocative life of Harlan Ellison (NESFA Press), 1-416 [500 signed, numbered copies in a slip case]
"There are writers who lie to themselves, and to their readers. Lying to readers in fiction is probably okay, because what is fiction but the well-constructed lie?" -Harlan Ellison

From:
The Harlan Ellison Hornbook: Essays - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1497604621
Harlan Ellison - 2014 - ‎Biography & Autobiography

https://books.google.com/books?id=UsgqAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT65&dq=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&pg=PT65#v=onepage&q=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&f=false

Re-posted here for better access to Harlan Ellison's readers and scholars.
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