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David Meltzer z"l, Yehu'di / poet
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2018-01-13 02:08:27 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose

I'm afraid of the flowers, she said
they move so quietly.

Vines on the bedtable
Roses on the dresser
Awaken at night as my breath awaits love
to come move my room

The flowers turn
(Breathe as they move)
Towards me, in the dark
Large shadows

I'm afraid of the breath the flowers have,
she said

Tonight, new moon, I watch without sleep
So quietly do they move upon me
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David Meltzer, my chaver...17 February 1937-31 December 2016...he was not a white supremacist nor a paedo

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2018-01-13 02:52:23 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
(Oyez / The Auerhahn Press), broadside
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2018-01-13 05:24:41 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
<spamsnip>
Tarzan-speak tripe.
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2018-01-13 05:33:44 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
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Tarzan-speak tripe.
Your antisemitie remark about one of the 20th century's greatest poets -- loved and respected by Michael McClure, Jerome Rothenberg, Lawrence Ferlinghetto, Diane Di Palma, among so many others -- is predictable. You can't even write, but you are relentless with your spam. No wonder you are an abject fraud.
תמשיך ללכת, חתיכת פדופיל מזדיין.
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2018-01-13 05:45:48 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
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Tarzan-speak tripe.
Your antisemitie remark about one of the 20th century's greatest poets --
Who Aunty Semitie?

Not give shit about Aunty.

No like Tarzan-speak "poem."

Tonight new moon. I watch without sleep.

Me Meltzer. You Pick.

Large shadows. Snip spam.

No like Tarzan-speak "poem."
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2018-01-13 05:53:54 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
<spamsnip>
Tarzan-speak tripe.
Your antisemitie remark about one of the 20th century's greatest poets --
Who Aunty Semitie?
Not give shit about Aunty.
No like Tarzan-speak "poem."
Tonight new moon. I watch without sleep.
Me Meltzer. You Pick.
Large shadows. Snip spam.
No like Tarzan-speak "poem."
Shalom & Erev tov...you just keep proving over-and-over you are NOT a 'Jew'...
תמשיך ללכת, חתיכת פדופיל מזדיין.
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2018-01-13 05:56:27 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
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Tarzan-speak tripe.
Your antisemitie remark about one of the 20th century's greatest poets --
Who Aunty Semitie?
Not give shit about Aunty.
No like Tarzan-speak "poem."
Tonight new moon. I watch without sleep.
Me Meltzer. You Pick.
Large shadows. Snip spam.
No like Tarzan-speak "poem."
You might be interested to know that most Jews have advanced beyond Tarzan-speak.
Will Dockery
2018-01-13 06:13:35 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
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Tarzan-speak tripe.
Damn, I kind of liked it...
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2018-01-13 06:19:55 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
<spamsnip>
Tarzan-speak tripe.
Damn, I kind of liked it...
Will...David was my chaver / friend for 46 years...a MAJOR poet, as you and I both know.
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2018-01-13 06:31:00 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
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Tarzan-speak tripe.
Damn, I kind of liked it...
Will...David was my chaver / friend for 46 years...a MAJOR poet, as you and I both know.
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He was such a MAJOR poet that we can not call him one without shouting.
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2018-01-13 06:32:32 UTC
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On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 10:31:01 PM UTC-8, ***@gmail.com wrote:
Shalom & Boker tov, MichelangeloPaedoCoco...this is an outright distortion, but predictable considering it is from you. Barry Miles and Bill Morgan, biographers/archivists, have refuted your ilk for decades; and, no, you have not read them, nor have you (as I have) been to Stanford University Special Collections, and perused the diaries and papers. Reb Allen enjoyed playing word games with your ilk's antisemitic racialist nonsense. Your charade is over here. The evidence has been irrefutably presented as to what you are, by Dave Marsh et al.

You have a documented history of lying, taking observations out-of-context, accusations without foundation (experimental wordplay between my oldest daughter and I is not 'plagiarism')...You got trapped 12 January 2018 by your fabrication that I am not a Yehu'di, when it can be proven. When I offered to share the Hebrew documentation (signed by R. Paul Laderman z"l and R. Mayer Goldberg z"l, the latter a beloved student of Rav Kook), you quickly deflected. accusing me of 'blackmail' for stating your suggestions were acceptable ONLY if you retracted, in public, your salacious accusations I am not a 'Jew' / Yehu'di. You were caught in yet another lie.

But, as George Dance, poet/publisher/editor said on 30 December 2017, one must be alert when dealing with you, Michael Pendragon'/MichelangeloPaedoBestialityCoco:. You remain such a liar because you do not want anyone to 'suspect what a dishonest, disgusting piece of filth you are -- and we really can't have that'.

MichelangeloPaedoBestialityCoco (seemingly encouraged by his cyberian stalker ally NaziGene) is a congenital, psychotic paedophile obsessed with little girls. His deliberate, knowing fabrications, slanders, and antisemitic mantras are duly noted, and ignored. He is, need I say, afflicted with early onset stupidity, so similar to NaziGene's demure malice and lying babble, one can easily discern he does have natz'ri dementia. He is illustrative of what the quackery squared of pharmacracy is capable of...and he has been coupling it with public confessions of bestiality (primarily with Sus scrota domestica Erxleben 1777). In grade school (repeating 2nd grade 4 times), when he played in the sandbox, cats would rush over, and cover him up.

To paraphrase poet Will Dockery, ignoring these two is never problematic; trying to remember them is. To borrow from Reb Samuel Beckett in 1970, their every word remains an unnecessary stain on silence and no-thing-ness.

MichelangeloPaedoBestialityCoco and NaziGene are not poets, but gossipography type writers. You, MichelangeloPaedoBestialityCoco, are not now, nor have you ever been, a Yehu'di, but a blaspheming proselytising member of Opus Dei, and you pose a genuine danger to the children in your neighbourhood. NaziGene is an inept cyberstalking criminal, a child abuser; if he seems 'lost in thought', it derives from it being alien territory.
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2018-01-13 06:35:34 UTC
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Shalom & Boker tov, MichelangeloPaedoCoco...this is an outright distortion,
Are you claiming you didn't shout out "MAJOR" by placing it in ALL CAPS?

The archives tell a different story.
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2018-01-13 06:30:14 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
<spamsnip>
Tarzan-speak tripe.
Damn, I kind of liked it...
Well natch ... he's talking your lingo.
Will Dockery
2018-01-13 07:43:33 UTC
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Agreed completely, Meltzer was one hell of a poet.
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2018-01-13 08:05:57 UTC
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Agreed completely, Meltzer was one hell of a poet.
Tarzan get resounding "meh."
Will Dockery
2018-01-15 01:58:45 UTC
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Not seeing the Tarzan analogy at all.
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2018-01-15 03:20:41 UTC
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Will...for what it's worth in Cyberia, David's widow contacted me tonight, giving me an update on her activities.
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2018-01-15 03:44:51 UTC
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Will...for what it's worth in Cyberia, David's widow contacted me tonight, giving me an update on her activities.
I'm viewing a joint poetry reading with both of them, from 2013...



Beat Poet David Meltzer and Poet Julie Rogers Read Their Poetry At Beyond Baroque

San Francisco Beat Poet David Meltzer and Poet Julie Rogers read their poetry at Beyond Baroque Literary Center. Venice, CA September 20, 2013. Book signing followed with Marsha Getzler, Susan Heldfond Sauders, Michael C. Ford and Russ Tablyn. Filmed by Pegarty Long Raven Productions
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2018-02-03 04:44:50 UTC
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Stephan wrote in message news:8c20b22a-f762-4c71-824a-***@googlegroups.com...

David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose

I'm afraid of the flowers, she said
they move so quietly.

Vines on the bedtable
Roses on the dresser
Awaken at night as my breath awaits love
to come move my room

The flowers turn
(Breathe as they move)
Towards me, in the dark
Large shadows

I'm afraid of the breath the flowers have,
she said

Tonight, new moon, I watch without sleep
So quietly do they move upon me
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David Meltzer, my chaver...17 February 1937-31 December 2016...

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Outstanding poetics
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2024-06-26 14:19:03 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Ros
I'm afraid of the flowers, she sai
they move so quietly
Vines on the bedtabl
Roses on the dresse
Awaken at night as my breath awaits lov
to come move my roo
The flowers tur
(Breathe as they move
Towards me, in the dar
Large shadow
I'm afraid of the breath the flowers have
she sai
Tonight, new moon, I watch without slee
So quietly do they move upon m
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David Meltzer, my chaver...17 February 1937-31 December 2016...h
was not a white supremacist nor a paed
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Will Dockery
2019-10-29 04:11:53 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose

I'm afraid of the flowers, she said
they move so quietly.

Vines on the bedtable
Roses on the dresser
Awaken at night as my breath awaits love
to come move my room

The flowers turn
(Breathe as they move)
Towards me, in the dark
Large shadows

I'm afraid of the breath the flowers have,
she said

Tonight, new moon, I watch without sleep
So quietly do they move upon me

-David Meltzer

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Always a good poem from Meltzer.
Rocky
2020-06-10 00:25:12 UTC
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David Meltzer,© 1964. The Blackest Rose
I'm afraid of the flowers, she said
they move so quietly.
Vines on the bedtable
Roses on the dresser
Awaken at night as my breath awaits love
to come move my room
The flowers turn
(Breathe as they move)
Towards me, in the dark
Large shadows
I'm afraid of the breath the flowers have,
she said
Tonight, new moon, I watch without sleep
So quietly do they move upon me
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
David Meltzer, my chaver...17 February 1937-31 December 2016...he was not a white supremacist nor a paedo
STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
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