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George J. Dance
2019-07-30 21:24:47 UTC
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Copyright term extension agreed to in USMCA trade pact omitted from Canadian government's enabling legislation.

May 30, 2019 - The Canadian government tabled Bill C-100 yesterday, the bill to implement the Canada-US-Mexico Trade Agreement.... [K]ey provisions ... include new criminal provisions on trade secrets and tampering with rights management information. The bill also features several provisions related to copyright term but notably does not touch the current general copyright term of life of the author plus an additional 50 years. There are several new terms included in the bill with extensions for anonymous works, performances in sound recordings, sound recordings, and cinematographic works. The bill expressly states that none of the extensions are retroactive which means that the works that are currently in the public domain will remain there even after the new terms are established.

Yet the big story is that Section 6 of the Copyright Act, which states that the general term of copyright is life of the author plus 50 years, remains unchanged despite a USMCA requirement of life plus 70 years. Why unchanged?

I am advised that the reason is that the Canadian government negotiated a 2 1/2 year transition period for the USMCA and it intends to use the time to consult with the public on the best way to meet the copyright term obligation. That holds the promise of the making the best of a bad situation given that few (other than the embarrassingly one-sided Heritage committee study) think that extending the term of copyright benefits Canadians.

For example, there has been some thought given to establishing a registration requirement for the additional 20 years. That approach would allow rights holders that want the extension to get it, while ensuring that many other works enter the public domain at the international standard of life plus 50 years. By providing for life plus 50 and the option for an additional 20 years, Canadian law would be consistent with Berne Convention formalities requirements and with its new trade treaty obligations. Copyright registration would not eliminate all the harm to the public domain, but it would mean that only those that desire the extension would take the positive steps to get it, thereby reducing the costs of the USMCA’s unnecessary copyright term extension.

Read more: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2019/05/canada-introduces-usmca-implementation-bill-without-a-general-copyright-term-extension-provision/

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Rex Entwhistle
2019-07-30 23:26:57 UTC
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Copyright term extension agreed to in USMCA trade pact omitted from Canadian government's enabling legislation.
May 30, 2019 - The Canadian government tabled Bill C-100 yesterday, the bill to implement the Canada-US-Mexico Trade Agreement.... [K]ey provisions ... include new criminal provisions on trade secrets and tampering with rights management information. The bill also features several provisions related to copyright term but notably does not touch the current general copyright term of life of the author plus an additional 50 years. There are several new terms included in the bill with extensions for anonymous works, performances in sound recordings, sound recordings, and cinematographic works. The bill expressly states that none of the extensions are retroactive which means that the works that are currently in the public domain will remain there even after the new terms are established.
Yet the big story is that Section 6 of the Copyright Act, which states that the general term of copyright is life of the author plus 50 years, remains unchanged despite a USMCA requirement of life plus 70 years. Why unchanged?
I am advised that the reason is that the Canadian government negotiated a 2 1/2 year transition period for the USMCA and it intends to use the time to consult with the public on the best way to meet the copyright term obligation. That holds the promise of the making the best of a bad situation given that few (other than the embarrassingly one-sided Heritage committee study) think that extending the term of copyright benefits Canadians.
For example, there has been some thought given to establishing a registration requirement for the additional 20 years. That approach would allow rights holders that want the extension to get it, while ensuring that many other works enter the public domain at the international standard of life plus 50 years. By providing for life plus 50 and the option for an additional 20 years, Canadian law would be consistent with Berne Convention formalities requirements and with its new trade treaty obligations. Copyright registration would not eliminate all the harm to the public domain, but it would mean that only those that desire the extension would take the positive steps to get it, thereby reducing the costs of the USMCA’s unnecessary copyright term extension.
Read more: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2019/05/canada-introduces-usmca-implementation-bill-without-a-general-copyright-term-extension-provision/
Article copyright Michael Geist. Licensed Creative Commons BY 2.5.
http://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.com/2019/07/canadian-copyright-extension-on-hold.html
Interesting news.....
General Zod
2019-08-01 03:45:09 UTC
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Copyright term extension agreed to in USMCA trade pact omitted from Canadian government's enabling legislation.
May 30, 2019 - The Canadian government tabled Bill C-100 yesterday, the bill to implement the Canada-US-Mexico Trade Agreement.... [K]ey provisions ... include new criminal provisions on trade secrets and tampering with rights management information. The bill also features several provisions related to copyright term but notably does not touch the current general copyright term of life of the author plus an additional 50 years. There are several new terms included in the bill with extensions for anonymous works, performances in sound recordings, sound recordings, and cinematographic works. The bill expressly states that none of the extensions are retroactive which means that the works that are currently in the public domain will remain there even after the new terms are established.
Yet the big story is that Section 6 of the Copyright Act, which states that the general term of copyright is life of the author plus 50 years, remains unchanged despite a USMCA requirement of life plus 70 years. Why unchanged?
I am advised that the reason is that the Canadian government negotiated a 2 1/2 year transition period for the USMCA and it intends to use the time to consult with the public on the best way to meet the copyright term obligation. That holds the promise of the making the best of a bad situation given that few (other than the embarrassingly one-sided Heritage committee study) think that extending the term of copyright benefits Canadians.
For example, there has been some thought given to establishing a registration requirement for the additional 20 years. That approach would allow rights holders that want the extension to get it, while ensuring that many other works enter the public domain at the international standard of life plus 50 years. By providing for life plus 50 and the option for an additional 20 years, Canadian law would be consistent with Berne Convention formalities requirements and with its new trade treaty obligations. Copyright registration would not eliminate all the harm to the public domain, but it would mean that only those that desire the extension would take the positive steps to get it, thereby reducing the costs of the USMCA’s unnecessary copyright term extension.
Read more: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2019/05/canada-introduces-usmca-implementation-bill-without-a-general-copyright-term-extension-provision/
Article copyright Michael Geist. Licensed Creative Commons BY 2.5.
http://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.com/2019/07/canadian-copyright-extension-on-hold.html
Bumped for another read.....
Will Dockery
2019-08-01 04:11:53 UTC
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Thanks, I missed this one earlier.
George J. Dance
2019-08-02 09:29:02 UTC
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Thanks, I missed this one earlier.
It's not a victory, at this point; there'll still be hearings, and eventually the act will be changed.

I've been thinking the best idea is to copy the language from the U.S. law, changing the year from "1978" to "2020":

"Copyright in a work created on or after January 1, 1978, subsists from its creation and, except as provided by the following subsections, endures for a term consisting of the life of the author and 70 years after the author’s death."
https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html

Bu
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-02 09:42:40 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Will Dockery
2019-08-02 13:55:06 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Interesting questions.
Rex Warren Jr.
2019-08-03 04:21:14 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Interesting questions.
Indeed...……...
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 04:58:17 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 04:58:46 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Yes.
General Zod
2019-08-04 05:06:06 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Yes.
Responding to Pastor Corey in kind sure does ruffle his feathers....
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 11:42:25 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Yes.
Responding to Pastor Corey in kind sure does ruffle his feathers....
It wasn't meant to be a tit for tat. Normally I enjoy his Socratic method of questioning, as it gives me a chance to think and write some more about a topic. The one above, though, was asked at 5:42 am, when I wouldn't have had time to give him the answer he wanted, as I have to leave for work around that time - I might have even left by then, and not even seen the question, as I don't remember it. When I noticed it I still didn't have time for a proper reply, but I didn't want it to just sit here in the thread as an unanswered question.
Will Dockery
2019-08-04 11:56:01 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Yes.
Responding to Pastor Corey in kind sure does ruffle his feathers....
It wasn't meant to be a tit for tat. Normally I enjoy his Socratic method of questioning, as it gives me a chance to think and write some more about a topic. The one above, though, was asked at 5:42 am, when I wouldn't have had time to give him the answer he wanted, as I have to leave for work around that time - I might have even left by then, and not even seen the question, as I don't remember it. When I noticed it I still didn't have time for a proper reply, but I didn't want it to just sit here in the thread as an unanswered question.
As long as Pastor Corey has hs head out of his ass when he asks such questions, I suppose.

;)
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 12:06:08 UTC
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I asked George. He can choose to answer or not, irrespective of where my head is.
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 12:34:13 UTC
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I asked George. He can choose to answer or not, irrespective of where my head is.
I still don't think I have enough time to do your question justice, but it is time to get my thoughts down. I'll write you a long reply because I don't have time do a short one. If you have further questions, I'd ask you to take Zod's advice and read my earlier stuff on the subject, too (particularly my January 1 article on "public domain day" too.

"Victory" would be simply preserving the public domain as is, without any new barriers keeping works out of it. Since I don't think it's possible or even wise to derail the treaty over it, I think the only possible victory is one that technically respects the treaty's language, but causes the least harm to the p.d. - certainly less harm than the UK or U.S. inflicted on theirs when they extended their copyrights.

Why is that important? Philosophically, I believe in the possibility, actuality, and desirability of human progress - and I think a public domain (the body of human knowledge that we're all able to access without restriction) is something on which that progress depends.

I've tried to do my part in that, in the poetry field mostly, by making poems accessible on PPB, letting people experience works of art for the first time. One thing that lets me do that much better is that 20-year window we have in Canada with that shorter term - I can give readers poems by people from Yvor Winters to Dylan Thomas to Walter de la Mare to Dorothy Parker (and on and on) that an American or European blogger couldn't do legally. I want to keep that legal, because letting it be criminalized would make the blog much poorer, or at least much harder; clearly negative in any case.
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 12:09:39 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Yes.
Responding to Pastor Corey in kind sure does ruffle his feathers....
It wasn't meant to be a tit for tat. Normally I enjoy his Socratic method of questioning, as it gives me a chance to think and write some more about a topic. The one above, though, was asked at 5:42 am, when I wouldn't have had time to give him the answer he wanted, as I have to leave for work around that time - I might have even left by then, and not even seen the question, as I don't remember it. When I noticed it I still didn't have time for a proper reply, but I didn't want it to just sit here in the thread as an unanswered question.
As long as Pastor Corey has hs head out of his ass when he asks such questions, I suppose.
One has to be careful with someone using the Socratic method, of course: the idea is to ask leading questions, to get the other person to state or agree with one's point of view (the /Meno/ being a paradigm example). However, I got the idea from the above that he really has an open mind and just wants to know why I think it's an issue worth investing time in.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 12:27:35 UTC
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In response to your comment, and to be perfectly clear,
I most certainly do NOT have an open mind. My mind is
decidedly closed on most if not all matters about which
I've had to think and decide something, and I've had to
make some very important decisions in my time. I am
who I am, think what I think, and I've thought like this
for quite a while. I'm comfortable, and not likely to change
my thinking much, if at all, ever, about anything. That said,
I am genuinely interested in why you think it's an issue worth
investing in. I wouldn't ask otherwise. That's just how I am.
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 12:43:45 UTC
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In response to your comment, and to be perfectly clear,
I most certainly do NOT have an open mind. My mind is
decidedly closed on most if not all matters about which
I've had to think and decide something, and I've had to
make some very important decisions in my time.
Do you have an open mind on the question of copyright term, or have you decided on it? The former how I interpreted your questions: that you'd like more information, at least on others' points of view, before making a final judgement of your own. That's my only reason to give you an answer that's longer than "Yes."
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I am
who I am, think what I think, and I've thought like this
for quite a while. I'm comfortable, and not likely to change
my thinking much, if at all, ever, about anything. That said,
I am genuinely interested in why you think it's an issue worth
investing in. I wouldn't ask otherwise. That's just how I am.
Well, I am who I am, and that includes having a lot of certain beliefs. On most of those, though, I'm open to being convinced by another person's arguments. I think that there's no point in spending time on a discussion at all, if each of us weren't open to being convinced by the others' arguments.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 12:51:31 UTC
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I don't have a question on copyright terms. I'm just a writer.
George J. Dance
2019-08-04 13:22:35 UTC
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I don't have a question on copyright terms. I'm just a writer.
Copyright is important to writers, so I think one should have an opinion.

There's two, of course. The Writers' Union of Canada supports the extension, because they think Canadian writers are penalized in other countries by the rule of the shorter term. (Since Canada only gives life + 50 years copyright, those countries give Canadian writers only that much.)

On the other hand, other writers besides me oppose it. Here's something from Ars Technica via my politics blog:

"And even some content creators aren't keen on ever-longer copyright terms. The [U.S.] Authors Guild, for example, 'does not support extending the copyright term, especially since many of our members benefit from having access to a thriving and substantial public domain of older works,' a Guild spokeswoman told Ars in an email. 'If anything, we would likely support a rollback to a term of life-plus-50 if it were politically feasible.'"

Read more: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/hollywood-says-its-not-planning-another-copyright-extension-push/
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 16:58:26 UTC
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I said I don't have a question, not that the issue wasn't important,
or that I don't have an opinion. I do have an opinion, but it isn't one
of the two you cite. As a writer, my primary concern is for writing
something worth someone's time, because reading well takes time.
General Zod
2019-08-04 21:48:27 UTC
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I said I don't have a question, not that the issue wasn't important,
or that I don't have an opinion. I do have an opinion, but it isn't one
of the two you cite. As a writer, my primary concern is for writing
something worth someone's time, because reading well takes time.
Too bad most of what you write is bullshit and hypocrisy, Pas5tor Corey....
General Zod
2019-08-04 21:51:22 UTC
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I said I don't have a question, not that the issue wasn't important,
or that I don't have an opinion. I do have an opinion, but it isn't one
of the two you cite. As a writer, my primary concern is for writing
something worth someone's time, because reading well takes time.
The typical evasive answer from Pastor Corey.....
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 21:53:50 UTC
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Troll
General Zod
2019-08-04 21:56:00 UTC
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Troll
You're looking in the mirror again, hypocritical one...?
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 22:02:34 UTC
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Your friend, Will Dockery, is a liar and a coward. That's the truth.
General Zod
2019-08-04 22:08:14 UTC
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Your friend, Will Dockery
That's right Pastor Corey....

And you are a typical hypocritical preacher man spewing your bullshit...
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 22:11:03 UTC
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It's the truth, whether you accept it or not.
Your friend is a shameful liar and coward.
Will Dockery
2019-08-04 23:42:54 UTC
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It's the truth, whether you accept it or not.
Your friend is a shameful liar and coward.
You posted the threats... no surprise YOU want to lie about it.
George J. Dance
2019-08-10 13:02:37 UTC
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I said I don't have a question, not that the issue wasn't important,
or that I don't have an opinion.
Did anyone say that you don't have an opinion, or that you thought the issue was unimportant, Hieronymous? No, they did not. So why are you pretending that making up and attacking strawmen?
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I do have an opinion, but it isn't one
of the two you cite.
Yes, Hieronymous; you already told us you don't have an open mind on the subject, which implies that you have an opinion.
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As a writer, my primary concern is for writing
something worth someone's time, because reading well takes time.
Well, you failed in this case. All I've got from your posts is that you have an opinion, it isn't the same as mine, and you don't want to say anything about either your opinion or mine (since you haven't). In what way do you think my reading that from you has been worth my time?
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-10 13:07:57 UTC
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I'm a Union man, you know.
George J. Dance
2019-08-10 13:23:18 UTC
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I'm a Union man, you know.
"Now I'm a union man
Amazed at what I am
I say what I think, that the company stinks
Yes I'm a union man
[...]
"So though I'm a working man
I can ruin the government's plan
And though I'm not hard, the sight of my card
Makes me some kind of superman"

[...]


Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-10 13:29:50 UTC
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I don't know what you mean by that. That's not me.
You asked my opinion. With respect to writers' rights,
"I'm a Union man, you know. Though what I know
may often show a certain existential flow, that
resenoates an afterglow ..." etc. etc. it's a poem.
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 13:58:12 UTC
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I don't know what you mean by that. That's not me.
You asked my opinion. With respect to writers' rights,
"I'm a Union man, you know. Though what I know
may often show a certain existential flow, that
resenoates an afterglow ..." etc. etc. it's a poem.


Union Maid (Recorded Live) · Judy Collins And Pete Seeger
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-10 14:03:04 UTC
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Someone who read my poem aloud
substituted "resenoates" for resonates.
George J. Dance
2019-08-10 15:14:04 UTC
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I don't know what you mean by that. That's not me.
You asked my opinion. With respect to writers' rights,
"I'm a Union man, you know. Though what I know
may often show a certain existential flow, that
resenoates an afterglow ..." etc. etc. it's a poem.
http://youtu.be/lU6FsGBi9wI
Union Maid (Recorded Live) · Judy Collins And Pete Seeger
That was new to me; thanks for posting it.

I can see where it's the inspiration for the Strawbs song I posted, as well as for a bit of racist doggerel about an "Indian maid" that used to circulate in schoolyards.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-10 15:55:47 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?

"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
George J. Dance
2019-08-10 19:31:52 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
Not the one I was thinking about; the one I remember was to sung to the tune of "Union Maid" and began:

There once was an Indian maid
Who said she wasn't afraid
To lie on her back
In a tumble-down shack
And let the cowboys tickle her crack...

Fortunately, I've forgotten the rest.
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 19:36:00 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
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There once was an Indian maid
Who said she wasn't afraid
To lie on her back
In a tumble-down shack
And let the cowboys tickle her crack...
Fortunately, I've forgotten the rest.
That one passed me by, thankfully.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-10 20:34:21 UTC
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What makes that inherently racist, as opposed to sexist, or some other ist?
Dental River
2019-08-10 20:34:28 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
There once was an Indian maid
Who said she wasn't afraid
To lie on her back
In a tumble-down shack
And let the cowboys tickle her crack...
Fortunately, I've forgotten the rest.
That last line really sent it to shitville. You've obviously got most of a limerick, but how it connects to some war-horse called "Union Maid" cannot be explained by we, Mankind.

There once was an Indian maid
Who said she wasn't afraid
To lie on her back
In a tumble-down shack
And wipe it all clean with Glade.

There once was an Indian maid
Who said she wasn't afraid
To lie on her back
In a tumble-down shack
strangled to death by Nick Cave.

We can go on and on this way, thanks to some racist doggerel that empowers us to create. Thanks to one funny little dusky maiden with big floppy ears, a long greasy tail, and the mischievous nature that accompanies incontinence. Our very own signifyin' monkey, and a healthy breeder, too.
Will Dockery
2019-08-14 01:09:32 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
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There once was an Indian maid
Yes, glad I missed that one, but the intense graphic novel work of Jack Jaxon covers such crimes as well:

http://bronzeageofblogs.blogspot.com/2016/02/comanche-moon.html
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-14 03:21:57 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
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There once was an Indian maid
http://bronzeageofblogs.blogspot.com/2016/02/comanche-moon.html
Jaxon was intense....
Andre Hugo
2019-08-18 03:13:44 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
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There once was an Indian maid
http://bronzeageofblogs.blogspot.com/2016/02/comanche-moon.html
Intense and disturbing but great art...
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-14 23:41:13 UTC
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Is this what you mean by racist doggerel?
"There is a wigwam far away, In Boston town, I'm told,
Where sits a dusky maiden, Just twenty-two years old.
Her heart is filled with longing And she watches all the day,
For the coming ..."
From Nonsense Verses and Doggerel Rhymes by Bill Wiser
https://books.google.com/books?id=pu5KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=indian+maid+bill+wiser&source=bl&ots=SpvE62ISHh&sig=ACfU3U3zacnmMSEfx1cj-ItPETYlXD1UJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjahMry0_jjAhVoTd8KHSDPArcQ6AEwCnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
There once was an Indian maid
Who said she wasn't afraid
To lie on her back
In a tumble-down shack
And let the cowboys tickle her crack...
Fortunately, I've forgotten the rest.
Awful stuff...............
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 19:10:26 UTC
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I don't know what you mean by that. That's not me.
You asked my opinion. With respect to writers' rights,
"I'm a Union man, you know. Though what I know
may often show a certain existential flow, that
resenoates an afterglow ..." etc. etc. it's a poem.
http://youtu.be/lU6FsGBi9wI
Union Maid (Recorded Live) · Judy Collins And Pete Seeger
That was new to me; thanks for posting it.
I can see where it's the inspiration for the Strawbs song I posted, as well as for a bit of racist doggerel about an "Indian maid" that used to circulate in schoolyards.
I don't remember that one, but there's John Keats:

https://www.bartleby.com/101/623.html

John Keats. 1795–1821 / Song of the Indian Maid
Will Dockery
2019-08-11 11:45:32 UTC
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I don't know what you mean by that. That's not me.
You asked my opinion. With respect to writers' rights,
"I'm a Union man, you know. Though what I know
may often show a certain existential flow, that
resenoates an afterglow ..." etc. etc. it's a poem.
http://youtu.be/lU6FsGBi9wI
Union Maid (Recorded Live) · Judy Collins And Pete Seeger
That was new to me; thanks for posting it.
It ties in with some personal memories of mine, for another time, probably another poem or two.
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-11 21:35:05 UTC
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I don't know what you mean by that. That's not me.
You asked my opinion. With respect to writers' rights,
"I'm a Union man, you know. Though what I know
may often show a certain existential flow, that
resenoates an afterglow ..." etc. etc. it's a poem.
http://youtu.be/lU6FsGBi9wI
Union Maid (Recorded Live) · Judy Collins And Pete Seeger
That was new to me; thanks for posting it.
It ties in with some personal memories of mine, for another time, probably another poem or two.
All those years working in a mill I would guess......
General Zod
2019-08-04 21:40:28 UTC
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I don't have a question on copyright terms. I'm just a writer.
Copyright is important to writers, so I think one should have an opinion.
There's two, of course. The Writers' Union of Canada supports the extension, because they think Canadian writers are penalized in other countries by the rule of the shorter term. (Since Canada only gives life + 50 years copyright, those countries give Canadian writers only that much.)
"And even some content creators aren't keen on ever-longer copyright terms. The [U.S.] Authors Guild, for example, 'does not support extending the copyright term, especially since many of our members benefit from having access to a thriving and substantial public domain of older works,' a Guild spokeswoman told Ars in an email. 'If anything, we would likely support a rollback to a term of life-plus-50 if it were politically feasible.'"
Read more: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/hollywood-says-its-not-planning-another-copyright-extension-push/
You know Pastor Corey never answers any questions only asks them....
ME
2019-08-04 21:45:28 UTC
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Of course you'd say that pissbum/Brillo head.
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 21:48:30 UTC
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He takes after his lying, cowardly mentor.
Admiral Fripp
2019-08-09 04:24:08 UTC
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In response to your comment, and to be perfectly clear,
I most certainly do NOT have an open mind. My mind is
decidedly closed on most if not all matters about which
I've had to think and decide something, and I've had to
make some very important decisions in my time.
Do you have an open mind on the question of copyright term, or have you decided on it? The former how I interpreted your questions: that you'd like more information, at least on others' points of view, before making a final judgement of your own. That's my only reason to give you an answer that's longer than "Yes."
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I am
who I am, think what I think, and I've thought like this
for quite a while. I'm comfortable, and not likely to change
my thinking much, if at all, ever, about anything. That said,
I am genuinely interested in why you think it's an issue worth
investing in. I wouldn't ask otherwise. That's just how I am.
Well, I am who I am, and that includes having a lot of certain beliefs. On most of those, though, I'm open to being convinced by another person's arguments. I think that there's no point in spending time on a discussion at all, if each of us weren't open to being convinced by the others' arguments.
That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
NancyGene
2019-08-09 11:43:05 UTC
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That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
Speaking of evading questions, why did you spend the $50 that was sent to you to help with your rent on steak dinners for you, Will and Brother Dave?
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 15:51:12 UTC
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That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
Speaking of evading questions
Speaking of evading questions, when will you admit you were confused about the connection of Madeleine Davis with Boney M?

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/H-gr9p57JHg/I8Zp1RAvEQAJ
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Beautiful vocals....

Good one, Zod.
She was big over in Europe.... not so much over here....
Check out our hometown girl Madeline Davis on this song...
She was in La Mama and that group was brought in to provide the backing track....

Boney M - Gadda Da Vida 1980 (long version)
According to the comments, she (and Boney M) were not heard on the song.
No, you have it backwards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida#Boney_M._version

""Gadda-Da-Vida" became a controversial Boney M. record since none of the original members sang on it. Because of a fall-out between producer Frank Farian and the group, he had session singers La Mama (Cathy Bartney, Patricia Shockley, and Madeleine Davis) sing the female vocals while he did the deep male vocals, as usual..."

Just curious, since you love to whine about the mistakes of others endlessly, Nancy G.

:)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-09 15:57:49 UTC
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That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
Speaking of evading questions
Speaking of evading questions, when will you admit you were confused about the connection of Madeleine Davis with Boney M?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/H-gr9p57JHg/I8Zp1RAvEQAJ
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Beautiful vocals....
http://youtu.be/aSK0H1M5rLU
Good one, Zod.
She was big over in Europe.... not so much over here....
Check out our hometown girl Madeline Davis on this song...
She was in La Mama and that group was brought in to provide the backing track....
http://youtu.be/ZsbbCIgUYts
Boney M - Gadda Da Vida 1980 (long version)
According to the comments, she (and Boney M) were not heard on the song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida#Boney_M._version
""Gadda-Da-Vida" became a controversial Boney M. record since none of the original members sang on it. Because of a fall-out between producer Frank Farian and the group, he had session singers La Mama (Cathy Bartney, Patricia Shockley, and Madeleine Davis) sing the female vocals while he did the deep male vocals, as usual..."
Just curious, since you love to whine about the mistakes of others endlessly, Nancy G.
Now that the smarmy little toad has croaked, you're the only whiner left in the group, Whiny Willie.

Why do you project so much?



Michael Pendragon
“… giggling
at the gay guys
outside Sweet Gum Head bar
two green haired
punk rock boys
kissing…”
-- Wee Whiny Willie Dockery, quintessential dumb fuck, pissbum & homophobe
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 16:06:13 UTC
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That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
Speaking of evading questions
Speaking of evading questions, when will you admit you were confused about the connection of Madeleine Davis with Boney M?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/H-gr9p57JHg/I8Zp1RAvEQAJ
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Post by Admiral Fripp
Beautiful vocals....
http://youtu.be/aSK0H1M5rLU
Good one, Zod.
She was big over in Europe.... not so much over here....
Check out our hometown girl Madeline Davis on this song...
She was in La Mama and that group was brought in to provide the backing track....
http://youtu.be/ZsbbCIgUYts
Boney M - Gadda Da Vida 1980 (long version)
According to the comments, she (and Boney M) were not heard on the song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida#Boney_M._version
""Gadda-Da-Vida" became a controversial Boney M. record since none of the original members sang on it. Because of a fall-out between producer Frank Farian and the group, he had session singers La Mama (Cathy Bartney, Patricia Shockley, and Madeleine Davis) sing the female vocals while he did the deep male vocals, as usual..."
Just curious, since you love to whine about the mistakes of others endlessly, Nancy G.
you're the only whiner left in the group
Shut up, Pendragon, you've whined endlessly (or, rather about 239 times) about General Zod for months, now:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.arts.poetry.comments/%22Shut$20up$2C$20Todd.%22;context-place=forum/alt.arts.poetry.comments

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Results: about 239 for "Shut up, Todd."

And that doesn't even include your hundreds of gay lame and misogynist whines.

;)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-09 16:13:58 UTC
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That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
Speaking of evading questions
Speaking of evading questions, when will you admit you were confused about the connection of Madeleine Davis with Boney M?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/H-gr9p57JHg/I8Zp1RAvEQAJ
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Post by Admiral Fripp
Beautiful vocals....
http://youtu.be/aSK0H1M5rLU
Good one, Zod.
She was big over in Europe.... not so much over here....
Check out our hometown girl Madeline Davis on this song...
She was in La Mama and that group was brought in to provide the backing track....
http://youtu.be/ZsbbCIgUYts
Boney M - Gadda Da Vida 1980 (long version)
According to the comments, she (and Boney M) were not heard on the song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida#Boney_M._version
""Gadda-Da-Vida" became a controversial Boney M. record since none of the original members sang on it. Because of a fall-out between producer Frank Farian and the group, he had session singers La Mama (Cathy Bartney, Patricia Shockley, and Madeleine Davis) sing the female vocals while he did the deep male vocals, as usual..."
Just curious, since you love to whine about the mistakes of others endlessly, Nancy G.
you're the only whiner left in the group
I see that you haven't gotten Netflix yet.
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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.arts.poetry.comments/%22Shut$20up$2C$20Todd.%22;context-place=forum/alt.arts.poetry.comments
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And that doesn't even include your hundreds of gay lame and misogynist whines.
Stop whining, Queenie and own up to your gender identity like a... whateverthefuck you are.


Michael Pendragon
“… giggling
at the gay guys
outside Sweet Gum Head bar
two green haired
punk rock boys
kissing…”
-- Wee Whiny Willie Dockery, quintessential dumb fuck, pissbum & homophobe
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 16:24:46 UTC
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Stop whining, Queenie and own up to your gender identity like a... whateverthefuck you are.
You're really that confused about who I am?

https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos

Watch a few of the videos, they'll get you up to speed.

:)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-09 16:27:59 UTC
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Stop whining, Queenie and own up to your gender identity like a... whateverthefuck you are.
You're really that confused about who I am?
https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos
Watch a few of the videos, they'll get you up to speed.
Why? Do you drop your trousers for the Conley brothers in them?



Michael Pendragon
"Because you simply don't have the capacity to make the leaps f creatve thought that I have."
-- Wee Whiny Willie Dockery, quintessential dumb fuck, pissbum (hic!)
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 16:34:18 UTC
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Why? Do you drop your trousers for the Conley brothers in them?
Have a look and find out:

https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos

Again, watch a few of the videos, they'll get you up to speed.

;)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-09 16:47:43 UTC
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Why? Do you drop your trousers for the Conley brothers in them?
https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos
Again, watch a few of the videos, they'll get you up to speed.
I'd informed you quite some time ago that I have no interest in watching your videos or reading your "poetry."


Michael Pendragon
“… the mixture here of almost psychopathic narcissism and pathological inability approaches being the only unique feature of the ‘poetry.’”
-- Dale Houstman summarizing Will Dockery’s “poetry.”
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 17:09:45 UTC
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On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 12:47:44 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos
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Again, watch a few of the videos, they'll get you up to speed.
I'd informed you quite some time ago that I have no interest in watching your videos or reading your "poetry."
That's fine, but when you lie about the videos and poetry to misrepresent and smear me, then I'll correct you.
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-09 17:57:40 UTC
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https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos
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Again, watch a few of the videos, they'll get you up to speed.
I'd informed you quite some time ago that I have no interest in watching your videos or reading your "poetry."
That's fine, but when you lie about the videos and poetry to misrepresent and smear me, then I'll correct you.
I didn't lie, you whiny-assed paranoid buttfuck.

I merely asked you if you dropped your trousers for the Conleys in it.

Why did I ask this?

Because you had whined about my having made (what you claim to be) "gay lames" about you; said that I was "confused about who [you are]," and posted the video link to get me "up to speed" on your persona.

Hence, my question.

Post your answer here:
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 19:41:10 UTC
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https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos
I didn't lie
Okay, so you posted your fantasy, then.

So, I'll change that to that's fine, but when you post your fantasy about the videos and poetry to misrepresent and smear me, then I'll correct you.

:)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-09 19:45:05 UTC
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https://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery/videos
I didn't lie
Okay, so you posted your fantasy, then.
So, I'll change that to that's fine, but when you post your fantasy about the videos and poetry to misrepresent and smear me, then I'll correct you.
A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will.

It's a question.

Google "question," and place your answer here:
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 22:55:41 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.

;)
George J. Dance
2019-08-09 23:42:19 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
IIRC, The term for the logical fallacy is "compound question."
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-09 23:50:20 UTC
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America works best
when we say Union Yes!
ME
2019-08-09 23:53:21 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
IIRC, The term for the logical fallacy is "compound question."
Can you say bullshit, dunce?
George J. Dance
2019-08-18 19:31:31 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
IIRC, The term for the logical fallacy is "compound question."
Can you say bullshit, dunce?
I can even point to an example, in the post right above this one:

"You are aware that your response wasn’t a coherent nor complete sentence, right pissbum. "

That was pure bullshit.
High Number
2019-08-19 23:23:41 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
IIRC, The term for the logical fallacy is "compound question."
Can you say bullshit, dunce?
"You are aware that your response wasn’t a coherent nor complete sentence, right pissbum. "
That was pure bullshit.
"ME" was just describing what it smells and tastes on it's upper lip........
Will Dockery
2019-08-09 23:54:15 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
IIRC, The term for the logical fallacy is "compound question."
Mr. Berger used to pull stunts like that against Perry Mason's clients.

;)
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-15 23:04:21 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
IIRC, The term for the logical fallacy is "compound question."
That sounds right.....................
ME
2019-08-09 23:52:02 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
;)
You are aware that your response wasn’t a coherent nor complete sentence, right pissbum.
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-10 01:44:13 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
What it's called is "asking a question."

Record your answer here:
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 02:04:49 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
What it's called is "asking a question."
Okay, the answer is "No".

;)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-10 02:33:33 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
What it's called is "asking a question."
Okay, the answer is "No".
See... that wasn't so hard.

My next question is: Why do you have to make a big fuss over every little question?
George J. Dance
2019-08-10 12:14:27 UTC
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A question is neither a lie nor a fantasy, Will
When you ask a question that is obviously based on a fantasy, lie or misrepresentation, whatever that's called is what you're doing.
What it's called is "asking a question."
Okay, the answer is "No".
See... that wasn't so hard.
My next question is: Why do you have to make a big fuss over every little question?
Why do you continually fantasize about Will's sex life, Pig Pen?
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-10 12:32:36 UTC
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Sex? Did someone say sex? Who said sex?
What about sex? I like sex. Do you like sex?
Let's talk about sex! I have some experience,
not recent, but from what I recall it was good.
Admiral Fripp
2019-08-10 03:32:05 UTC
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That is Pastor Corey for you.... always evades the question.....
Speaking of evading questions
Speaking of evading questions, when will you admit you were confused about the connection of Madeleine Davis with Boney M?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/H-gr9p57JHg/I8Zp1RAvEQAJ
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Beautiful vocals....
http://youtu.be/aSK0H1M5rLU
Good one, Zod.
She was big over in Europe.... not so much over here....
Check out our hometown girl Madeline Davis on this song...
She was in La Mama and that group was brought in to provide the backing track....
http://youtu.be/ZsbbCIgUYts
Boney M - Gadda Da Vida 1980 (long version)
According to the comments, she (and Boney M) were not heard on the song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida#Boney_M._version
""Gadda-Da-Vida" became a controversial Boney M. record since none of the original members sang on it. Because of a fall-out between producer Frank Farian and the group, he had session singers La Mama (Cathy Bartney, Patricia Shockley, and Madeleine Davis) sing the female vocals while he did the deep male vocals, as usual..."
Just curious, since you love to whine about the mistakes of others endlessly, Nancy G.
:)
Hah ha ha… Nancy G. sure does hate being wrong....
Will Dockery
2019-08-04 12:39:36 UTC
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Good morning, George. Can you explain what a 'victory' would mean, why this is important to you?
Yes.
Responding to Pastor Corey in kind sure does ruffle his feathers....
It wasn't meant to be a tit for tat. Normally I enjoy his Socratic method of questioning, as it gives me a chance to think and write some more about a topic. The one above, though, was asked at 5:42 am, when I wouldn't have had time to give him the answer he wanted, as I have to leave for work around that time - I might have even left by then, and not even seen the question, as I don't remember it. When I noticed it I still didn't have time for a proper reply, but I didn't want it to just sit here in the thread as an unanswered question.
As long as Pastor Corey has hs head out of his ass when he asks such questions, I suppose.
One has to be careful with someone using the Socratic method, of course: the idea is to ask leading questions, to get the other person to state or agree with one's point of view (the /Meno/ being a paradigm example). However, I got the idea from the above that he really has an open mind and just wants to know why I think it's an issue worth investing time in.
Pastor Corey is definitely in a foul mood today, and is already taking it out on me, so take care and good luck.

;)
Will Dockery
2019-08-02 09:45:01 UTC
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Thanks, I missed this one earlier.
It's not a victory, at this point; there'll still be hearings, and eventually the act will be changed.
"Copyright in a work created on or after January 1, 1978, subsists from its creation and, except as provided by the following subsections, endures for a term consisting of the life of the author and 70 years after the author’s death."
https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html
Bu
I think you hit "Send" too soon here..?
Rex Warren Jr.
2019-08-03 09:23:00 UTC
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Copyright term extension agreed to in USMCA trade pact omitted from Canadian government's enabling legislation.
May 30, 2019 - The Canadian government tabled Bill C-100 yesterday, the bill to implement the Canada-US-Mexico Trade Agreement.... [K]ey provisions ... include new criminal provisions on trade secrets and tampering with rights management information. The bill also features several provisions related to copyright term but notably does not touch the current general copyright term of life of the author plus an additional 50 years. There are several new terms included in the bill with extensions for anonymous works, performances in sound recordings, sound recordings, and cinematographic works. The bill expressly states that none of the extensions are retroactive which means that the works that are currently in the public domain will remain there even after the new terms are established.
Yet the big story is that Section 6 of the Copyright Act, which states that the general term of copyright is life of the author plus 50 years, remains unchanged despite a USMCA requirement of life plus 70 years. Why unchanged?
I am advised that the reason is that the Canadian government negotiated a 2 1/2 year transition period for the USMCA and it intends to use the time to consult with the public on the best way to meet the copyright term obligation. That holds the promise of the making the best of a bad situation given that few (other than the embarrassingly one-sided Heritage committee study) think that extending the term of copyright benefits Canadians.
For example, there has been some thought given to establishing a registration requirement for the additional 20 years. That approach would allow rights holders that want the extension to get it, while ensuring that many other works enter the public domain at the international standard of life plus 50 years. By providing for life plus 50 and the option for an additional 20 years, Canadian law would be consistent with Berne Convention formalities requirements and with its new trade treaty obligations. Copyright registration would not eliminate all the harm to the public domain, but it would mean that only those that desire the extension would take the positive steps to get it, thereby reducing the costs of the USMCA’s unnecessary copyright term extension.
Read more: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2019/05/canada-introduces-usmca-implementation-bill-without-a-general-copyright-term-extension-provision/
Article copyright Michael Geist. Licensed Creative Commons BY 2.5.
http://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.com/2019/07/canadian-copyright-extension-on-hold.html
Try reading the article Pastor Corey and it may answer your questions...
Will Dockery
2019-08-04 22:17:37 UTC
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Again, you bullshit, Pastor Corey.

Kindly PPOSTFU.

:)
Hieronymous Corey
2019-08-04 22:24:48 UTC
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Again, I don't need to post proof of anything. You are self-evidently a
liar for claiming that I threatened you, and a coward for not admitting it.
Johnny Galt
2019-08-06 03:12:45 UTC
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Again, I don't need to post proof of anything. You are self-evidently a
liar for claiming that I threatened you, and a coward for not admitting it.
You know you wrote that threatening post to Doc....

Why not just admit it after all these years...?? ?
Johnny Galt
2019-08-07 03:22:10 UTC
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Again, I don't need to post proof of anything
If you make stupid, false claims, yes you do Pastor Corey....
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-07 03:28:54 UTC
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Again, I don't need to post proof of anything
If you make stupid, false claims, yes you do Pastor Corey....
Shut up, Todd.
Will Dockery
2019-08-07 05:07:29 UTC
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Again, I don't need to post proof of anything
If you make stupid, false claims, yes you do Pastor Corey....
Pastor Corey is okay, he just gets confused sometimes.

:)
Johnny Galt
2019-08-08 04:15:09 UTC
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Again, I don't need to post proof of anything
If you make stupid, false claims, yes you do Pastor Corey....
Pastor Corey is okay, he just gets confused sometimes.
:)
Pastor Corey is a good man of God....

A great preacher man....
Johnny Galt
2019-08-08 08:22:21 UTC
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Copyright term extension agreed to in USMCA trade pact omitted from Canadian government's enabling legislation.
May 30, 2019 - The Canadian government tabled Bill C-100 yesterday, the bill to implement the Canada-US-Mexico Trade Agreement.... [K]ey provisions ... include new criminal provisions on trade secrets and tampering with rights management information. The bill also features several provisions related to copyright term but notably does not touch the current general copyright term of life of the author plus an additional 50 years. There are several new terms included in the bill with extensions for anonymous works, performances in sound recordings, sound recordings, and cinematographic works. The bill expressly states that none of the extensions are retroactive which means that the works that are currently in the public domain will remain there even after the new terms are established.
Yet the big story is that Section 6 of the Copyright Act, which states that the general term of copyright is life of the author plus 50 years, remains unchanged despite a USMCA requirement of life plus 70 years. Why unchanged?
I am advised that the reason is that the Canadian government negotiated a 2 1/2 year transition period for the USMCA and it intends to use the time to consult with the public on the best way to meet the copyright term obligation. That holds the promise of the making the best of a bad situation given that few (other than the embarrassingly one-sided Heritage committee study) think that extending the term of copyright benefits Canadians.
For example, there has been some thought given to establishing a registration requirement for the additional 20 years. That approach would allow rights holders that want the extension to get it, while ensuring that many other works enter the public domain at the international standard of life plus 50 years. By providing for life plus 50 and the option for an additional 20 years, Canadian law would be consistent with Berne Convention formalities requirements and with its new trade treaty obligations. Copyright registration would not eliminate all the harm to the public domain, but it would mean that only those that desire the extension would take the positive steps to get it, thereby reducing the costs of the USMCA’s unnecessary copyright term extension.
Read more: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2019/05/canada-introduces-usmca-implementation-bill-without-a-general-copyright-term-extension-provision/
Article copyright Michael Geist. Licensed Creative Commons BY 2.5.
http://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.com/2019/07/canadian-copyright-extension-on-hold.html
Where does it lead from here...?
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 03:07:41 UTC
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Because your questions are designed to smear and misrepresent.

😉
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-10 04:13:54 UTC
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Because your questions are designed to smear and misrepresent.
My questions allow you to present the truth. If they smear and misrepresent you, the fault lies in your answers.
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 05:05:43 UTC
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Your questions usually have no basis in reality, though.

;)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-10 05:25:56 UTC
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Your questions usually have no basis in reality, though.
They usually have a basis in one of your ungrammatical statements that actually mean something decidedly different than you'd intended.
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 05:40:38 UTC
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Your questions usually have no basis in reality, though.
They usually have a basis in one of your ungrammatical statements that actually mean something decidedly different than you'd intended.
Where did the "drop your trousers for the Conley brothers" one come from?
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-10 05:53:40 UTC
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Your questions usually have no basis in reality, though.
They usually have a basis in one of your ungrammatical statements that actually mean something decidedly different than you'd intended.
Where did the "drop your trousers for the Conley brothers" one come from?
I'd explained that to you above.
Will Dockery
2019-08-10 07:50:18 UTC
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Your questions usually have no basis in reality, though.
They usually have a basis in one of your ungrammatical statements that actually mean something decidedly different than you'd intended.
Where did the "drop your trousers for the Conley brothers" one come from?
I'd explained that to you above.
Here's a typical Conley Brothers video, no pants dropping to be seen:


Johnny Galt
2019-08-11 03:49:35 UTC
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Your questions usually have no basis in reality, though.
They usually have a basis in one of your ungrammatical statements that actually mean something decidedly different than you'd intended.
Where did the "drop your trousers for the Conley brothers" one come from?
I'd explained that to you above.
http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
Outstanding show that one was.....
Will Dockery
2019-08-11 19:57:10 UTC
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Where did the "drop your trousers for the Conley brothers" one come from?
http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
Outstanding show that one was.....
Yes, it was... here's another video clip:


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